Jenn Smith:

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Jenn is a Canadian gender critical trans woman:

"The implications of this story are huge. Are you a parent? Guess what? You have no power over your children or even a right to know if your children are transitioning in BC. This is a totalitarian takeover of children."
t.co/73FZpSZIJw

Really scary stuff imo.

Tweet:

twitter.com/JennSmith64/status/1078784555799109632?s=19

Direct link to article:

www.thepostmillennial.com/b-c-childrens-hospital-claims-they-dont-require-parental-consent-for-childs-testosterone-injections/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Eeh I didn't finish me title! That's insomnia for you

That’s a terrifying article.

Isn't it? Canada is lost at the moment. I hope we don't go the same way!

I completely agree with this.

Furthermore, I am going to suggest to the reader, that any state that has seized for itself the power to trample a parent’s rights in order to artificially, medically, and permanently transform a child from one gender into another is a state that has run totally amok and must be brought to heel forthwith.

I'm so pleased more trans people are speaking out about this. It's needed. Well done Jenn!

The child in that article is thirteen years old. Jesus fucking Christ. Canada is lost.

Jenn has been speaking out about the political implications of this ideology for a long long time. I used to think they were being a bit tin-foil-hat.

What a chilling article. A social worker and a doctor decide that a self harming girl (who cuts herself and takes poisons) was competent to decide to take life altering drugs. It won't be long before this arrives here. It's why Mermaids, GIRES et al are currently targeting schools to erode safeguarding boundaries and remove parental responsibilities / rights. So dangerous.

As a safeguarding lead in a primary school, this trend terrifies me.

I’ve been told by our LA lead for PSHE that I’m being ridiculous to think that anyone supporting Mermaids is in favour of medical intervention. I brought it up at my recent safeguarding update training but got a mealy-mouthed reply about it not always being in the child’s best interests to share concerns of this with with parents.

Once we’re back after Christmas, I’ll send our safeguarding trainer a copy of this article. We are not so far “ahead” as Canada, but not far enough behind either.

As I’ve posted before, over my dead body will those zealots be coming into our school.

"“Infants Actt_,” which was originally designed to give underage youths the legal authority to receive immunization shots without parental approval, but was expanded to include prescriptions for birth control, STDs, abortion, and more."

The Canadian Infants act is not dissimilar to the Gillick Competency in the UK.
It seems entirely likely this will be expanded to mean underage teens can access treatment either without their parents' knowledge or by overuling their parents' refusal of consent.

I'm finding this difficult because in some cases I do believe that children should have the right to decide their own treatment. For instance if a 13 year old asked for contraception against parents' wishes. Why is it ok to override parental wishes in some cases but not others?

I think the difference is that the provision of contraception would be to prevent further harm: pregnancy is a more dangerous alternative. Whereas with gender dysphoria, testosterone will cause permanent changes including sterility. So the least harmful course of action would be support through talking therapies.

I know what the TRA response would be: testosterone treatment is less damaging than death by suicide. They would present suicide as a likely consequence of the dysphoria, that could be avoided through the testosterone treatment.

I feel like there are two factors in this story:

1. determining when a child is or is not capable of making their own choice of treatment (and self-harm seems to suggest not)

2. more thought about which treatments are being offered and the likely consequences. Personally, I don't think children should be offered treatments leading to permanent sterility, regardless of whether they are 'competent' or have parental consent.

I know what the TRA response would be: testosterone treatment is less damaging than death by suicide.

They’ve played a blinder there because no-one is going to make a statement that implies they would prefer children die, even though the whole “trans or dead” thing is wrong on every level.

Sometimes I can't believe that I'm actually reading this stuff and that it is real and not part of some dystopian fantasy. It is so desperately disturbing but has the potential to ruin so many lives. How did we get to this stage without the people with the power, slamming on the brakes and showing this up for the outrageous gaslighting that it really is?

Why is it ok to override parental wishes in some cases but not others?

Because in some situations - contraception - the child can understand the fairly minimal risks. In other situations - transitioning - they cannot fully comprehend the quite considerable risks.

I know what the TRA response would be: testosterone treatment is less damaging than death by suicide. They would present suicide as a likely consequence of the dysphoria, that could be avoided through the testosterone treatment.

Yes. This is the crux of their justification for experimenting on children. The problem of course is that it is a complete lie.

I am looking for the link to the article by the professor who debunked these statistical claims but can't find it at the moment. Worried it may have been on the GenderTrender blog nuked by our hairy-balled pedo friend in B.C....

Meanwhile here is a good examination of the source of the "41%" number at 4thWaveNow:

4thwavenow.com/2015/08/03/the-41-trans-suicide-rate-a-tale-of-flawed-data-and-lazy-journalists/

And of course GIDS figures are vastly lower:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/teen-transgender-drama-butterfly-inflates-suicide-risk-9ng3z22mv

This is really scary - there is no way that a 13 year old is equipped to make that sort of decision for themselves. We don't let 13 year olds have tattoos, drink, smoke etc -and, isn't 12/13 the minimum recommended age for a child to be left alone at home by themselves? Craziness.

I'm finding this difficult because in some cases I do believe that children should have the right to decide their own treatment. For instance if a 13 year old asked for contraception against parents' wishes. Why is it ok to override parental wishes in some cases but not others?

Or an abortion. A child must have the right to have an abortion without parental consent.

The flaw in there argument is that suicide rates are low. Also, we have never had vast amounts of children killing themselves because they cannot be the other sex, didn't happen. Surely, if this is a human condition which has always been around, we would have seen this in the past.

Sadly what we have seen in the past is men abusing women and girls any chance they get and the medical profession getting it wrong. Lobotomy, satanic worship, women put in mental institutions because they were pregnant etc.

their, not there.

Why is it ok to override parental wishes in some cases but not others?
Contraception is temporary and low risk; medical intervention for children who think they are trans is almost invariably permanent and causes damage.

Age of consent plays into pedophilia next

Aha, here is the piece I wanted earlier: Oxford sociology professor Michael Biggs on trans kids suicide stats:

www.transgendertrend.com/suicide-by-trans-identified-children-in-england-and-wales/

Although calculated from only four suicides, the suicide rate is much higher than for teenagers overall—in my rough (over)estimate, 13 times greater. This is a genuine cause for concern. By comparison, anorexia multiplies the risk of suicide by 18 or 31 times (depending on the method of estimation), while depression multiplies it by 20 (Smith, Zuromski, and Dodd 2018). One study finds that autism multiplies the risk of suicide by a factor of 8 (Hirvikoski et al. 2016). This latter figure is especially relevant, given the fact that 35% of children referred to GIDS recently have moderate to severe autism (Butler, De Graaf, Wren, and Carmichael 2018).

Whether the higher rate of suicide among trans-identified teens is due to gender dysphoria or to co-incident conditions such as autism deserves urgent research. At the same time, we must realize that suicides of trans-identified children are rare tragedies and not—as transgendering organizations like Mermaids imply—a common occurrence. Rational and compassionate policy-making cannot be driven by the threat of suicide.