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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Spiked Heroes of 2018

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AspieAndProud · 25/12/2018 21:31

There’s a lot on Sp!ked I disagree with but on trans issues they’ve been on the ball.

www.spiked-online.com/2018/12/25/spikeds-heroes-of-2018/

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ErrolTheDragon · 25/12/2018 22:25

That and The Girls of Revolution Street ...two out of 3 ain't bad!

AspieAndProud · 25/12/2018 22:38

The juxtaposition probably isn’t deliberate but it really brings home the fact that women are committing a blasphemy just by existing.

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Destinysdaughter · 25/12/2018 23:30

Wow don’t we we have strange bedfellows at the moment..?

heresyandwitchcraft · 26/12/2018 08:32

Extract:

The feminists challenging trans orthodoxy
This year, the UK government proposed changes to the Gender Recognition Act (GRA) to allow trans people legally to change their gender without medical consultation. So-called self-identification has the support of the political class, the corporate world and even the established church. This has enormous implications for women’s rights and women’s spaces and so a number of feminists started pushing back. They also raised important questions about the rising number of children who are transitioning.

But it wasn’t easy. Anyone who says that trans rights and women’s rights had the potential to clash is now labelled a bigot. Some feminists organised meetings on the GRA this year but trans activists prevented them from going ahead. Some trans activists physically blocked them, others made bomb threats to venues to get the meetings cancelled. Many trans-critical feminists face violence, death threats and censorship.

The statement ‘women don’t have penises’ may sound like an incontrovertible, scientific fact. But in Britain in 2018, saying this is tantamount to a speechcrime. When a group of radical feminists distributed stickers with the offending phrase around Liverpool, Merseyside Police took the extraordinary step of investigating them.

At the beginning of 2018, anyone who raised critical questions on trans issues would be dismissed as a bigot and duly ignored or hounded from public life. But it is largely thanks to the feminist pushback that something resembling a debate has emerged. It is still a fractious debate, which often sheds more heat than light. Nevertheless, thanks to the brave pushback, we stand a much better chance in 2019 of reaching a consensus that can better accommodate the rights and freedoms of both women and trans women.

Xmas Shock
hackmum · 26/12/2018 10:01

Joanna Williams has just published this very good review of the year:

www.spiked-online.com/2018/12/26/the-year-of-trans-tyranny/

AspieAndProud · 26/12/2018 13:28

Somebody should post a link on Joanna Williams column to Miranda Yardley’s post of the Canadian pervert. It needs to be promoted before it disappears.

Unfortunately Spiked now require you to link to your Facebook account and it’s more than my job’s worth.

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Davina3 · 20/04/2019 16:37

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littlbrowndog · 20/04/2019 16:47

Ain’t such a thing as a cis woman davina.

We are not sub sets of women

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 20/04/2019 16:53

Transwomen are men. It’s fairly easy to be a feminist and not support men

Ereshkigal · 20/04/2019 16:53

It's entirely feminist to centre women and girls rather than pander to a sexist ideology. I realise that may be a novel concept for some.

LangCleg · 20/04/2019 16:58

ZOMBIE THREAD

Ereshkigal · 20/04/2019 16:59

Cheers Lang.

terryleather · 20/04/2019 17:03

D'you know what I think is really sad and quite sick?

Expecting women and girls to centre males in feminism while at the same time telling them not to worry theire silly little cis heads about it.

HTH

terryleather · 20/04/2019 17:04

Sheesh...

Davina3 · 21/04/2019 22:58

That’s really silly; transwomen are women, and other women should support them, not bring them down 🤔

7Days · 22/04/2019 01:53

Says who, Sabina?

7Days · 22/04/2019 01:53

Davina

FeministCat · 22/04/2019 02:49

What is your definition of a woman, Davina3?

I know mine does not include a man in it.

Feminists do not have to centre men - including men who “identify” as “women” - in their fight for and on behalf of women.

TillyMW · 22/04/2019 04:34

woman
NOUN

1An adult human female.

Davina3 · 22/04/2019 13:58

Trans women are doing nothing to disadvantage cis women.
They only want to live in harmony with them 😊

ScipioAfricanus · 22/04/2019 13:59

Happy to live in harmony with trans women just as I do with all other humans. I am a woman, no need for any prefix.

StrangeLookingParasite · 22/04/2019 14:01

transwomen are women? That’s really silly.

There, fixed that for you.

StrangeLookingParasite · 22/04/2019 14:04

And they (Spiked) can take the gilets jaunes far away. I spent most of Saturday shaking involuntarily after they fired tear gas at the protestors. Or someone used detonateurs again. After the attentats, I can't control it. Sirens, explosions, I shake.
For the most part now it's just casseurs, people with no political aims at all, just wating to wreck things. All those motos and cars and vans burnt; who do you think will be punished by that?

Davina3 · 22/04/2019 14:04

Obviously, anyone who genuinely self-identifies as a woman.
Do you know any trans people as friends?
Have you conversed with them?
Have you any actual, concrete, first-hand experience of trans people?
Until you do, you may not have any real knowledge or experience of them…
After all, they are real people in the same way that you are.
You don’t really get to know people by reading or talking about them, but by m e e t i n g them 😊

StrangeLookingParasite · 22/04/2019 14:06

FFS, if you spent any time here, rather than just seagulling in and patronising us, I might be inclined to listen to your cant.

Yep, mad on the internet again.