Sky news Australia thinks UK is insane - I agree!

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I am ashamed to be British, this report by Sky News Australia is a perfect example of why I am ashamed: mobile.twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/1076000521842905088

I agree that news story makes the UK looks like total plonkers

Merry Christmas

Oh look someone in the thread says trans is caused by pregnancy medication.

I am somewhat confused that many a reply thinks that once Brexit happens then anything like this will stop. People really have no fecking clue. Brexit doesn't mean everyone gets what they want.

This is why the great public of the UK should never have been allowed to vote on the matter.

That's a positive that the British trans ideology is being shamed internationally.

I'm not sure the trans movement is much different in Oz but parent power did get rid of the 'Safe Schools Programme' (It taught trans/gender ideology in schools throughout Australia)

youreteachingourchildrenwhat.org/safe-schools-coalition/

Rita Panahi is always good value. Growing up in Iran makes the whole free speech issue more than just theoretical (see Shappi Khorsandi too).

Hmmmm the opposition to the safe schools program was mostly (all?) pretty homophobic I'm pretty sure. That link certainly is....

Tis no different in Australia or New Zealand, we are only very slightly behind the madness. "Puuulllllllll"

*Dothehappydance

I am somewhat confused that many a reply thinks that once Brexit happens then anything like this will stop. People really have no fecking clue. Brexit doesn't mean everyone gets what they want.

This is why the great public of the UK should never have been allowed to vote on the matter.*

Spot on, you are.

The thing is that Safe School opposition focused on gender identity madness and was most likely executed by homophobe Christians. However they cleverly focused on the gender thing to attract broad support. Unfortunately the gender critical left stayed quiet lest they be burnt at the stake.

Diestylbestrol has not been given to pregnant women since the 1960s, I don’t think. But it is known to cause reproductive and hormonal issues in male and female children and grandchildren of women who were given it. So that tweet is not complete nonsense NotMe, although I am not sure it can be linked so directly to trans. I don’t think it can be ruled out though.

Diethylstilbestrol I mean.

I had the 'pleasure' of visiting Australia for a couple of months end of last year/earlier this year ( our 2nd visit in 2 years so not new to the country) and was utterly shocked by the sexist and racist attitudes we found in this supposedly forward thinking country.
I'm a fifty year old woman bought up a feminist and a considerate person.....I was shocked by the way I was treated openly as almost a 2nd class citizen. Horrified by the wide spread views on Domestic violence and Rape.....it was seen both in national press and by people we met as women's fault. Harvey Winestien was all over the press at the time and everyone we talked to seemed to think he had done nothing wrong.
Girls are objectified in so many ways from 90% of school uniform dresses we saw across the country being mid thigh and no option of trousers or shorts ( so don't give me bullshit on the heat etc as shorts are perfectly acceptable).....including at Prom where they have to wear white gowns and gloves and have no backless dresses and behave in a "modest" manner! And this was in the suburbs of Melbourne !!!!
My husband was shocked to be asked why he had bothered to buy me an expensive camera as surely it was a waste of money on a woman. ( Store in CBD in Sydney )
The attitudes we found towards people of a different skin colour sickened me

I loved many aspects of Australia and it's a beautiful country but the attitudes that prevail towards women and women's rights are in the dark ages

We don't have proms in Melbourne lol. We have end of year formals, and I wore a slinky black dress to mine.

Just had a lovely lunch with some of my non white family members, funny how we backwards Aussies were able to hold our racist tongues for a whole arvo!

NotMeOhNo I've had the misfortune to stumble into quite a few twitter threads where that Hugh bloke has been spouting his nonsense. He's relentless. Also racist.

mrkhtake2 is often on hand to tell him he's wrong but, like so many men; he will not listen nor will he ever concede a point.

Just spotted the ever-admirable mrkhtake2 is even dealing with his bollocks (pun intended) today,

MissCherryCakeyBun what? Not the country I recognise, but what would I know - I only had the “pleasure” of living there for 23 years.

Perhaps it was the circles you moved in.

Oh, and I was at school there 25 years ago and we had the option of shorts and trousers - they still do at my old school. However, my daughters do not at school in England.

And my end of year ball dress was a dark green slinky number with a thigh-high split...or is that also unacceptable, given that you can’t work out whether it is worse for girls to be objectified or modest...

Family have lived in Australia for over 65 years and obviously are Australian tho one cousin has kept her British passport and they live in a wide range of areas and maybe yes in the areas we visited we found some very very old fashioned ides
However I tell it as I find it and as far as I'm aware having seen the Prom directions and bought the dress for my partners niece who lives in Geelong and talked to others this was very common.
My aunt who is very forward thinking and not at all racist struggled in Australia as people endlessly wanted to know where her husband was ( struggled to see them as a couple )when they visited could be something to do with her being black Ugandan and my Uncle white British but hell what would I know. After all we all make assumptions about people's colour based on their posts have your biscuit back

My family has lived in Australia for a couple of hundred years, so by that measure your assertions are wildly inaccurate. And I come from a far less worldly town than Melbourne.

If people are wearing white dresses then you are talking about a deb ball, not a prom, which almost no one does outside of extremely rural areas, usually as a charity event. Australian school leavers don’t have proms, we have formals. Last time I checked debs were alive & well in the UK as well.

Anecdotes don’t prove rules. A BA check in staffer pointedly ignored me & made a crack at my expense to my husband on Thursday, “she’s only saying that so you spend the money on her!” - by your logic, on that basis I should deem all British men sexist and demeaning?

Sexism, racism, the objectification of women and family violence are global problems that are not exclusively Australian. The Victorian State Government held a Royal Commission into Family Violence and has committed to implementing every single finding - no matter the cost. They are engaged in a broad ranging program to change attitudes towards women to try and stem the alarming number of deaths. They consider it one if their key policy platforms, and have supporting policies such as free education for front line workers so they can properly address this issue.

This progressive Labor State Government was recently re-elected in a landslide. They rejected racist rhetoric and simplistic “lock them up” responses to perceived issues with some recent migrant groups. Instead they proposed access to education, the labour market and other social inclusion programs to address the needs of this cohort.

Safe Schools has not been dispensed with - control of it has shifted from La Trobe University to the Victorian Department of Education. It is being reviewed, and presumably will be re-launched at some point in 2019. It is anticipated that some of its more contentious elements will be removed - such as references to trans ideology.

Most Victorian schools have flexible uniform options that encompass students wearing what they feel comfortable in. This is actually a consequence of the Safe Schools initiative.

That Hugh bloke came on MN back in February. If you AS Diethylstilbestrol you'll find his posts.

Hugh is confused about biology and has a shaky grasp of science.

I just had a look at the thread Hugh was on in February. He thinks sex is determined by behaviour.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3177940-Government-announcement-on-petition-to-ban-medical-intervention-to-change-gender-for-under-18s?pg=4&order=

Hugh seems to be of the type that thinks that saying Lots Of Big Words in an Authoritative Manly Way means you’re right.

But Hugh is not right, and anyone with a GCSE in biology could tell them that.