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Women’s Coalition and abuse of the family court system...Ellie Yarrow

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DeloresJaneUmbridge · 23/12/2018 12:01

I don’t know if any one else has read about this case but it’s scary.

A controlling man continuing his abuse via the court system to the extent the Mum has fled with her child. Their thoughts and the letter Ellie Yarrow left are at the link below.

To be fair if the judge has no idea where the child is he has to express concern because he cannot know if the child is still aIive or not.

Beyond that I am hoping this girl stays well hidden and away from her controlling ex partner. Check out the age difference. Immediate power imbalance,

www.womenscoalitioninternational.org/blog

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PyeWackets · 23/12/2018 12:57

Poor woman.

Mummsy1 · 23/12/2018 20:16

Thanks for this.
I am in the same situation with a coercive controlling ex and because I had the strength to leave he has brought me to court 5 times and he was able to pay for barristers and solicitors and got all his demands. He pays me no child maintenance, he lost no house, paid nothing towards the children's new accommodation, in fact owes me money because he was out of work for 3 years.
He has now referred me to Social Services 7 times. I believe his next agenda is to take the children from me.
Please help

OlennasWimple · 23/12/2018 21:50

Mummsy1 Flowers

There's a brilliant website set up by a MNer called Child Protection Resource, which provides advice (and debunks some myths) about how Social Services make decisions regarding child protection in the UK

It's at childprotectionresource.online

womanformallyknownaswoman · 23/12/2018 22:03

Wow what a brave woman, desperate to protect her child from his obviously violent father - I hope she stays “disappeared”.

Again another example of the justice system and judge grossly failing in their duty of care to children and to mothers by enabling abuse by proxy. That judge deserves to be sacked or suspended until proved he can administer coercive control law.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 23/12/2018 22:08

mummsy1 contact Paladin Stalking Advocacy Service - they are headed by a great female family court lawyer who will no doubt know how to help - sending strength and caring hugs - I am sad you are being put through this stalking and harassment.

TwistedStitch · 23/12/2018 22:11

I followed this story a few days ago- the dad appealed on BBC breakfast and then posted on FB, so in response Ellie's family published her letter. I was so pleased to see how much support she got, basically every response to him calling him an abuser and telling her to stay safe. Her ex has now either hidden or deleted his page.

CurbsideProphet · 23/12/2018 22:22

Ellie's ex and his solicitor were on BBC Breakfast News earlier in the week. I thought it sounded a bit odd then and that was the first I had heard of it.

I hope she is safe and has emotional and legal support.

Jenny17 · 24/12/2018 08:09

I think everyone sees through this. Wishing mummsy1, Ellie and her family all the best.

DeloresJaneUmbridge · 24/12/2018 09:11

I am so glad others have seen through this too.
Men should not be able to use the court system to continue their abuse,
The letter this girl left her family is heartbreaking.

I’ve heard that her Mum and another family member are now being charged with perjury. Personally if I was Ellie’s Mum and knew where she was I would happily do two years of jail time for her.

Yes Dad comes across as a controlling arsehole. I know we’ve on,y got Ellie’s side of this as he hasn’t responded to the accusations she has made. I guess he has been advised not to but the accusations seem on,y too true in terms of how abusive men work.

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CorBlimeyGovenor · 04/01/2019 22:39

What concerns me most is that the boy has been made an award of court, so that now, the court has control of the boy. The judge also stated that evidence shows psychological harm when a child is 'abducted' and that he is 'gravely' con ernes for the child. For a male judge to be saying such things publically is only going to frighten this mother even more. And surely it is even more damaging for a child to then be put into foster care?? This could drive the mother to act in desperation. They should be offering some level of reassurance if they want her to come out of hiding. She should be able to have supervised custody of her child, for his sake, and reassurances about continuing joint custody. I believe the crux of her story. The age gap alone increases her vulnerability. Besides which, I have googled his FB profile picture, and in that pose at least, he looks intimidating and concerned with his self image. It's quite an assertive pose (full black leather leaning against a motorbike staring the camera down).

Concernedmamab · 05/01/2019 12:35

www.change.org/p/high-court-allow-ellie-yarrow-sanders-story-to-be-published

There's a petition about this!

Iused2BanOptimist · 05/01/2019 12:49

I thought there were a few people ?Judge Mundby ,? a journalist, MP who were campaigning for family courts to open up and not operate in secrecy. I can see no reason for them to operate in secret, I know they say it is to protect the child but except in a very few notorious cases where anonymity is essential I can see no good reason for secrecy.

If they were opened up it would shine a light on the judges and judgements and the way some people are able to manipulate them. It's not just regarding children - there was a woman who was sent to prison
for not returning an elderly person to the care Home social services thought he should be in.

The grandmother secretly jailed for caring too much dailym.ai/2g3BIWw via @MailOnline

Katvonbatshit · 05/01/2019 13:53

Dad was 37 when he left his pregnant partner to move in with Ellie, aged 18.

Oh what a piece of shit that guy is

Women’s Coalition and abuse of the family court system...Ellie Yarrow
Needmoresleep · 05/01/2019 14:16

I thought there were a few people ?Judge Mundby ,? a journalist, MP who were campaigning for family courts to open up and not operate in secrecy.

It is a long running Daily Mail campaign. They have published a couple of "sitting on the fence" factual articles on this one, but assume are waiting for their moment.

Gentlygently · 05/01/2019 17:38

I am in two minds about this. The letter does read as though the father isn’t great, but I honestly can’t believe that foster care, which she seems to be worried about, is a realistic possibility. And the Women’s coalition make reference to this as being similar to the Rebecca Minnock case, in which the father was definitely not (nearly as) problematic.

GrumpyGran8 · 05/01/2019 19:34

Like Gentlygently, I'm also in two minds here - we're only getting one side of the story. In child custody cases, the parent contesting custody can say what they like to the press, while people who actually know the facts cannot speak because of confidentiality matters. Personally, I'll reserve judgement until more facts come to light.

DoggusSausageous · 07/01/2019 21:37

BBC London News covered this on Saturday night.
Long interview with the oh-so-sad father, lots of talk from the reporter about a little boy kept away from his father 'he just needs to come home'.

They referenced that there was a letter but mentioned not one tiny hint that it contained any allegations against the father. But they showed pictures of Ellie - a man hunt for her. Disgraceful biased unprofessional reporting by the BBC.

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