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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

£494,000 more funding for Stonewall from the Big Lottery Fund

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Procrastinator1 · 23/12/2018 11:25

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/new-lottery-bonanza-for-transgender-lobby-3bqjhr730

From the article by Andrew Gilligan

The Big Lottery Fund (BLF) will pay £494,000 to “empower trans leaders and organisations” in “facilitation, media and influencing”. The money is being handed to the advocacy group Stonewall for distribution to other activists, creating a “network of leaders” to lobby for change. Stonewall was central to the campaign for contentious changes to gender laws.

If someone can tell me how to do a share token I will.

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 23/12/2018 11:27

between that and the 500k for mermaids, I'm sadly reflecting on the withrdrawel of funding from rape crisis and the lack of research into the causes of male violence, or justice for the 139 women murdered in the UK last year.

A million quid could go a long way towards fixing a lot of problems caused by misogyny.

LeftHook · 23/12/2018 11:37

The charity sector needs revision, this should have happened after Seville, Kids company and Oxfam. The gravy train for PR/advertising/training and careers virtue cookies needs to end.

What is charity, for those in need or funding people "helping"Hmm people in need?

LeftHook · 23/12/2018 11:41

Mother Teresa looked after herself, no different to any other charity, same model.

Tanith · 23/12/2018 11:44

The allocation of funding from The Big Lottery needs an overhaul. It’s easy to get funding from them and there are no rigorous checks or follow ups on how the money is spent.

Juells · 23/12/2018 11:50

LeftHook
Mother Teresa looked after herself, no different to any other charity, same model.

Am I missing something? Confused

Vegilante · 23/12/2018 13:42

Juels: Check out "Mother Teresa: Anything but a saint...University of Montreal Researchers dispell the myth of altruism and generosity surrounding Mother Teresa"

www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-03/uom-mta022813.php

Vegilante · 23/12/2018 13:48

To give credit where it's due, back in the 1990s Christopher Hitchens was the first to debunk the myths around Mother Teresa's supposed altruism & saintliness.

Much more recently - just months ago, in fact - MT's charity was put under investigation for selling children in its care.

www.newsweek.com/mother-teresas-charity-being-investigated-child-trafficking-1027780

justicewomen · 23/12/2018 13:53

The sad thing is that it is really hard for most charities (especially local and regional ones) to get funding from the National Lottery, as they lack dedicated marketing and lobbying resources (so often the people providing the services are those writing the funding bids and cannot spend time meting the key influencers).Their service users tend to also be very marginalised/less vocal and without social capital so are. not sending loads of email/social media support to the funders

Ereshkigal · 23/12/2018 14:01

The charity sector needs revision, this should have happened after Seville, Kids company and Oxfam. The gravy train for PR/advertising/training and careers virtue cookies needs to end.

What is charity, for those in need or funding people "helping"^ people in need?^

This.

Bowlofbabelfish · 23/12/2018 15:20

494k. In the same article Funding of £500,000 or more needed to be approved by an external board, while grants under this amount only need to be assessed by senior management, a former employee reported.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Bittermints · 23/12/2018 17:41

When I first read that article this morning, comments were on, now they seem to have disappeared. I wonder why.

Juells · 23/12/2018 18:01

Bowlofbabelfish I'm surprised the grant wasn't £499,999

Juells · 23/12/2018 18:05

@Vegilante Ah, thanks for explanation, I was befuddled. I thought LeftHook meant that Mother Teresa managed to raise any funding she needed herself. She seems to have not been a nice person, more interested in dragging people off the streets and 'converting' them than helping them in the way they might have preferred.

Vegilante · 23/12/2018 18:56

@Juells I'm not sure what LeftHook meant; that's just the conclusion I jumped to. Also, sorry I misspelled your username. Hope my act of literal violence hasn't left you traumatized & your identity here invalidated. If you are distressed, please know that you do exist, nobody's denying that. It's just that typos happen too.

Re Mother Teresa: she let the sick & dying people in her care suffer needlessly, withholding basic medical care. But when she got sick herself, she went to the West for the best medical care in the world. Which, if I recall correctly, included high-quality pain control drugs, i.e. morphine.

Juells · 23/12/2018 22:02

There's nothing like cranks and zealots for making sure everyone else suffers for their sins, while looking after their own comfort.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 23/12/2018 22:22

It does seem a derail but Mother Theresa was never about being a ‘nice person’; she was a devout Roman catholic following what she understood her faith to be and as such for her it wasn’t about ‘worldly matters’. To criticise her for eg her views about abortion and contraception is to misunderstand what she stood for. Of course she would be dogmatic on those issues.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 23/12/2018 22:24

Back to topic. Why is the Lottery giving £1million to pushing the trans agenda?

Juells · 23/12/2018 22:26

To criticise her for eg her views about abortion and contraception is to misunderstand what she stood for.

That wasn't what I saw her criticised for, it was her treatment of dying people. Can't remember the details now, but it was zealotry over compassion.

Vegilante · 24/12/2018 17:15

What Juells just said

GCSocScientist · 24/12/2018 17:22

I think OP, the National Lottery is going to have to look into who it’s middle managers are and why they keep donating funds to political advocacy when that goes against National Lottery policy.

theOtherPamAyres · 24/12/2018 18:08

Stonewall respond to Sunday Times article published on 23 December 2018

Today The Sunday Times have published a vicious article, directly placing an individual member of Stonewall staff at the centre of its criticism of our work. While a newspaper should scrutinise, and provide a platform for different views, it must also be accurate.

This article contains a number of inaccuracies and we will be making a formal complaint to the paper. The named member of staff is an important and valued member of the Stonewall team and, like everyone at Stonewall, she plays a vital role every day to build acceptance without exception for LGBT people

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Stonewall's Christmas has been put on hold while they compose a letter to the Times' Editor.

Phew, it's a relief to know that Aimee Challoner and/or Morgan Page are valued members of staff. I was really worried that they wouldn't get a Christmas bonus this year - what with all the scandals and question marks left in their wake.

LeftHook · 24/12/2018 19:45

Her lack of treatment for those she claimed to care about and her using them whilst vulnerable to build a brand.

Bowlofbabelfish · 24/12/2018 20:31

Still with the acceptance without exception?

Hmmmm....

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