A restraining order for this ...

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This country despises women

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6507237/Pregnant-woman-shares-CCTV-ex-partner-flooring-punch-appeals-help-catch.html

Yes there are some very dodgy police forces around - and the worst of them seem to be the ones shouting loudest about how trans(women) friendly they are whilst throwing real women and girls under the bus.

What an absolutely disgusting man to be showing off about his behaviour.

I still don’t understand what the police did wrong in this case?

Anyone?

In this case they didn't

In this case, it was the courts.

Happy?

MarguaritaPink The report in the Mail states the following:

Police investigated the offence and a man was arrested and charged with assault on the same day. He appeared in court on November 6, 2017 and was given a community order with a restraining order not to approach the victim

In the light of the footage I would suggest that the police's speed in taking this to court with minimal investigation has evidently resulted in a derisory sentence.

Women on here are very familiar with West Yorkshire Police (and other forces) spending many many person hours / days/ weeks in investigating allegations made by certain organisations who appear to have exceptionally close relationships with them and appear to be using the force as their own personal agents of social control to intimidate, threaten and even harass women trying to stop our rights being removed by these groups (judging by their actions in pursuing women like Linda Bellos, Posie Parker, Venice Allen etc).
So to see them spending so little time investigating such a serious assault on a woman is no surprise to many of us as it reflects their apparent lack of care for women's safety generally.

@feministfairy you don’t seem to have much understanding of the CJ system

KMoKMo
And you evidently have limited social skills judging by your posts on this thread. So we both appear to be deficient in some areas.

What I am not doing is attempting to silence people, I am contributing to the discussion with my views. If they're wrong, then clarify why. Contribute to the thread rather than repeatedly being rude.

CPS review police evidence and decide charges. If they feel more investigation is required, they set actions and bail the suspect until they are satisfied the evidence threshold is met for charge. Police continue investigating based on CPS instruction until, and sometimes whilst the case is in court.
In this case it is likely the threshold was met early on as CCTV was available and the perpetrator then pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity. The court then decide punishment.

However, even if that was not the case, and police should have done more investigation, how do you propose that is done? Either arrest is delayed until all evidence gathered - resulting in outrage the perpetrator had not be apprehended. Or he is arrested and bailed to allow more time to investigate. Again resulting in your outrage against police.

I’m understand your issues with the police. But you can’t let that taint every case they deal with. Occasionally the get it spot on and do all they can.

First rule feminism, never let the facts get in the way of a hysterical rant.

KM
You're using logic and facts to prove a point. But this is MN FWR.

Thank you for that KMoKo . That's helpful.

I do appreciate the Police for what they do and am amazed to suddenly find myself in the "sceptical of the police" camp. I have worked closely with a number of police forces in safeguarding and serious crimes involving children and have always seen them as the 'good guys'. So the torrent of cases like Rotherham etc alongside the apparent willingness of the police to pursue women at the behest of trans groups trying to repeal women's rights is making me question just how neutral the police are. And especially given their inability to follow up so many crimes against ordinary citizens because of resource issues. It's been a bit of an uncomfortable revelation.

I'm actually disgusted with the way everyone is blaming the police for actually doing their fucking jobs! They arrested him, collected the evidence (which wasn't used because he pleaded guilty!) and took him to court. Where their involvement ends.

Why is no one complaining about the Crown Prosecution Service? They have obviously not agreed to charge him with a more serious offence because he's been dealt with at magistrates, not the crown. They have obviously accepted a guilty plea to a lesser charge. Why is no one up in arms about that?!

Why is no one up in arms about the bloody magistrates who gave the sentence?! Why is no one asking for the heads of those who legislate on sentencing guidelines?!

Why is it always the fault of the police?! I don't mind picking out faults with the system. But point the finger at the right part and you might actually get it fixed!!

The problem is that the police on the whole have been shown time and time again to let women down. The fact that on this occasion it isn’t the fault of the police doesn’t negate this unsavoury truth.