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Article on femicide in the DM

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Bowlofbabelfish · 18/12/2018 02:21

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6505501/139-women-killed-men-2017.html

A good (and also depressing) article.

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WTFIsAGleepglorp · 18/12/2018 02:29

With the 'What about the menz' comments underneath.

Why is the DM so 'pro female' all of a sudden?

tothefareast80 · 18/12/2018 02:30

Depressing comments though. So many asking what about the men without any appreciation of the fact that it is women who are at significantly greater risk of harm from intimate or close male family members.

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Bowlofbabelfish · 18/12/2018 02:45

It’s a definite change in editorial policy isn’t it? Someone there has made a choice to do this. Don’t know who but well done to them.
Yes the comments... ah well.

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littlbrowndog · 18/12/2018 07:52

Faces of the slain

CosmicCanary · 18/12/2018 07:57

I avoid reading the comments as I know it will be "but women murder men too" type stuff.

Women are not allowed to speak about male violence. Ever.

bluescreen · 18/12/2018 08:04

Also covered in the Graun:
[[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/18/femicide-in-uk-76-of-women-killed-by-men-in-2017-knew-their-killer Femicide in UK: 76% of women killed by men in 2017 knew their killer.
Report into femicide cases in Britain also reveals 46% were killed by their partner or an ex]]

littlbrowndog · 18/12/2018 08:10

That anti women paper the guardian didn’t bother to use the pictures of the women murdered
So shocking to see all the faces

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 18/12/2018 08:18

Really good article.

PreseaCombatir · 18/12/2018 08:27

Good on the mail.
I’d take them over the guardian every day of the week

Sarahjconnor · 18/12/2018 08:29

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hackmum · 18/12/2018 08:31

It is a really good article. I was going to attribute the change in editorial stance to the fact that the Daily Mail has a new editor, but in fact this seems to be a Mail Online story rather than a Daily Mail story.

It's brilliant to see Karen Ingala Smith's work recognised in the national press. She has done an amazing job of bringing this to public attention, though obviously we'd all rather it wasn't necessary.

I think the criticism of the Guardian is unfair. Mail Online tends to go for very picture-driven stories and often has numerous pictures in a single story. The Guardian just doesn't work like that. The Guardian report is good too.

HamiltonCork · 18/12/2018 08:33

Good article but, yes, don’t read the comments.

InkyGrail · 18/12/2018 08:41

There have also been two incidents in the press this week of women killed and the 'sex games gone wrong' defense being used. TWO. In a week.

Christina Abbotts - hit several times in the back of the head, by a man who paid her for sex, and claims she tried to 'strangle' him. His defense seems to rest on her listing BDSM on her Adultwork profile.

And the shocking case of John Broadhurst being given three years and eight months for bludgeoning his girlfriend, Natalie Connolly to death, hitting her over 40 times and leaving her to die - in a 'sex game gone wrong' (again BDSM).

It's horrific. And it seems to me that BDSM is being used more and more as a defense. It's almost as if women have been persuaded to engage in violent sexual practices by 'sexual empowerment' ideology, and now some are being murdered for it - and the men responsible are having some success with using it as a defense.

Mumfun · 18/12/2018 09:04

InkyGrail so true They are now using BDSM as an alibi!

PreseaCombatir · 18/12/2018 09:12

Yes, they use ‘rough sex’ as an excuse for rape/murder, even when the victim has shown NO inclination at all in the past, and get away with it...

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Bowlofbabelfish · 18/12/2018 09:19

inky I agree completely.

I would like to see an examination of how this defence is increasing being used. It seems to be a ‘get off Scott free’ card for sexually violent men. It isn’t men dying when things ‘go wrong’ is it?

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Nightcloud · 18/12/2018 14:36

The Mail changed Editors a few months ago; Paul Dacre is no longer in charge after 2 decades at the helm. Now Geordie Grieg. Probably explains why they have changed tack and honestly I think this bodes well.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44404045

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Bowlofbabelfish · 18/12/2018 17:02

That makes sense. Fits with the timing on all this swing to different language and reporting.
Maybe he’s a mumsnetter ;) or maybe Ms. Terry is...

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arranbubonicplague · 18/12/2018 17:20

I saw the DM item last night but, as per PPs, the 'what about the men' comments were so interesting that I couldn't begin to engage. Particularly not as the 'what about the men' statistics that people were craving for the 'allegedly balanced story' about femicide are so readily available had any of the commenters been genuinely interested in posting them.

E.g.,: www.domesticviolencelondon.nhs.uk/1-what-is-domestic-violence-/25-domestic-abuse-against-men.html

men are less likely to be murdered by female abusers; Home Office figures reveal that on average, 100 women a year and around 30 men a year are killed within a domestic abuse context. Women are almost exclusively killed by men whereas in contrast approximately one third of the men are killed by other men and a little under a third are killed by women against whom they have a documented history of abuse.

arranbubonicplague · 18/12/2018 17:21

Bad auto-correct above - I meant "infuriating" not "interesting".

bluescreen · 18/12/2018 17:36

Julie Bindel is good - new article in the Graun now (different from the report I linked above):
A war on women is raging in the UK – the femicide statistics prove it

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