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iNews follows Pink News with article headline, "Father Ted writer Graham Linehan compares the trans movement to Nazism"

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R0wantrees · 13/12/2018 13:41

article by Jasmine Andersson:
'Father Ted writer Graham Linehan compares the trans movement to Nazism 'I’ve been one of the people standing up and saying "No, this is wrong," despite everyone telling me not to do it'

(extract)
Father Ted creator Graham Linehan has compared the transgender movement to “something terrible like Nazism” in a radio interview.

The writer, who is known for comedy hits such as The IT Crowd and Black Books, has been vocal about his opposition of the trans movement in the past and once received a police caution for the harrassment of a trans activist on Twitter.

Mr Linehan made the comments during an interview with American online radio platform Resistance Radio, part of Deep Green Resistance, which describes itself as a radical environmental and social justice organization. Resistance Radio said its presenter spoke to the writer about “the insanity of transactivism asserting that males can be women, the reinforcement of patriarchy, and the death of discourse”.

During the interview, Mr Lineham argued that he feels he must speak out against transgenderism because it is “too important” to himself and the women in his life, but said doing so is “like putting your hand on a flame thrower”, PinkNews reported.

“The opposition is so extreme and so frightening that eventually everyone is asking you to stop,” he said.

“My feeling is I can’t, because it’s too important. It’s too important to the women in my life and it’s too important to me,” he said, and claimed that not speaking out against trans rights is like ignoring “something terrible happening like Nazism”.

“I’m now in a position where I can now answer the question honestly of, if you were around the time of something terrible happening like Nazism, would you be one of the people who said, ‘This is wrong,’ despite being opposed?” he said in the interview.

“I feel happy in myself that I’ve been one of the people standing up and saying, ‘No, this is wrong,’ despite everyone telling me not to do it,” he added.

The scriptwriter also claimed the trans movement “provides cover” for “fetishists, con-men, and simply abusive misogynists”.

“Eventually people will break and realise this is just wrong,” he added.

The writer was cautioned in October after he called trans activist Stephanie Hayden “he” and used her dead name to refer to her, which is the name she used before transitioning.

Ms Hayden said she asked police for “swift and proportionate action to make clear that transgender harassment was unacceptable”.

He was given a police caution for verbal harassment and told not to contact Ms Hayden. Following the police action, Ms Hayden said: “Transphobia in any form is unacceptable. Now the police matter has been resolved, anything else is between the parties. Thank you to the transgender community (and beyond) for your continued support.”

The writer told i: “It’s obvious to anyone who actually listens to the interview what I am saying. By maliciously twisting my words, Adrian Harrop is simply opening another front in his harassment campaign against me, the last manifestation of which was a visit from the police when I shared a Sky News interview in which he was humiliated by feminist Posie Parker.” (continues)

inews.co.uk/news/graham-linehan-father-ted-writer-trans-activism-nazism/

Pink News article
www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/12/11/father-ted-graham-linehan-trans-nazis/

Graham Linehan's 45 mins interview with Derrick Jensen is here:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTXDLT3p1pM

AfterEllen criticism of Pink News:
www.afterellen.com/general-news/567505-male-run-pink-news-at-odds-with-lesbian-community

iNews follows Pink News with article headline, "Father Ted writer Graham Linehan compares the trans movement to Nazism"
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CuriousaboutSamphire · 13/12/2018 13:59

the last manifestation of which was a visit from the police when I shared a Sky News interview in which he was humiliated by feminist Posie Parker.” Oh! That made me laugh out loud Grin

As long as he gets to have the almost last word, and to make it things like that, he will be getting his message out clearly.

It s after all, far more appealing than

Ms Hayden said she asked police for “swift and proportionate action to make clear that transgender harassment was unacceptable

Qcng · 13/12/2018 14:07

Glinner is a true hero. A Glimmer indeed.

R0wantrees · 13/12/2018 14:08

the last manifestation of which was a visit from the police when I shared a Sky News interview in which he was humiliated by feminist Posie Parker.” Oh! That made me laugh out loud

The Sky News interview:

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stealthsquirrelnutkin · 13/12/2018 15:12

“I feel happy in myself that I’ve been one of the people standing up and saying, ‘No, this is wrong,’ despite everyone telling me not to do it,” he added.

That really struck home. He is right. We can all see now how rare it is for people to be brave when society is heading in the wrong direction.

I was raised in the aftermath of the 2nd world war, at that time it was generally agreed that ordinary German citizens were complicit in the atrocities committed, and also that if something similar had happened in the UK we would have refused to turn a blind eye, in their situation we believed we would have taken a stand, despite the personal risk, so the holocaust could not have happened here.

Now we find ourselves living in "interesting times" another ideology that is obviously wrong and dangerous was taking over, for a long time very few people dared to stand against it, and those that did were persecuted.

We've even seen some of the same phenomena, groups of thuggish young people howling slogans and terrorising the people they have been told are less than human. Police, courts and the penal system influenced far too easily, and politicians either fervently espousing the new ideology or too scared to stand against it.

A few brave feminists saw which way the wind was blowing, and they have been standing alone and fighting against the insanity for years. I'm ashamed that it took me so long to realise what was happening. I think in the aftermath, when the actions of those responsible are judged, and those sterilised as children realise what has been stolen from them, there will be very few people who have clear consciences, and Glinner will be one of them.

MrsBertBibby · 13/12/2018 15:19

He was not I believe given a police caution. He was given a harassment warning which involves no admission or finding of fault or criminal wrongdoing (a caution requires an admission).

That's something they really should clarify.

PennyMordauntsLadyBrain · 13/12/2018 15:20

I think the "problem" with Glinner is that he assumes that everyone is as well informed about this issue as he is, and Twitter isn't the right medium to introduce someone to the nuances.

I agree with him 100%, but if you read his tweets as someone who only has a vague understanding of the debate and especially as a white, lefty leaning man who doesn't understand why some women are feeling threatened, then his passion can come across as aggression.

Depressed myself yesterday by reading a thread on the Irish sub-reddit which was absolutely pasting him. It was blatant the posters who understood the issue and those who thought it was all right-wing scaremongering about toilets and changing rooms.

R0wantrees · 13/12/2018 15:31

I think the "problem" with Glinner is that he assumes that everyone is as well informed about this issue as he is, and Twitter isn't the right medium to introduce someone to the nuances

I don't think he does assume that at all.
His tweets have changed as he has become more aware and also as he has been more under attack.

Twitter is the medium he uses, though of course the interview with Derrick Jennsen and following newspaper coverage opens things out.
He's used Twitter for a long time.

There's another radio interview he did earlier in the year for an Irish station I think.
People should listen to the interviews. Especially the one which PN and this iNews article are refrring to.

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LangCleg · 13/12/2018 15:48

I don't think he does assume that at all.

Neither do I. I think he knows Twitter very well and feels that if he just keeps on and won't back down, aside from it being the right thing to do, eventually people will take notice and look for themselves.

Like us, I think he knows he is talking to lurkers a lot of the time.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 13/12/2018 15:50

harassment warning which involves no admission or finding of fault or criminal wrongdoing (a caution requires an admission)

That is an important distinction. Thank you for pointing that out.

Pennydrew142 · 13/12/2018 16:17

He is being stunning and brave 😬 and I thank him for it.

AssassinatedBeauty · 13/12/2018 16:31

I'm not surprised they've continued to promote a lie about the supposed "caution" which was nothing of the sort. Imo the police are being used as a tool to try and intimidate him.

VickyEadie · 13/12/2018 16:44

He didn't actually compare the trans movement to Nazis at all, did he? He compared standing by and doing or saying nothing as akin to people doing that during the Nazi era in Germany.

Katvonblackdeath · 13/12/2018 17:07

It's so hard. Chatting to a group of educational professionals today and EVERYONE was worried about gender non conforming children.
And everyone was also scared to say it.

Dragon3 · 13/12/2018 17:26

Katvon, that must be horrible to witness but it's heartening to know that educational professionals are at tipping point. As soon as it becomes OK to voice concerns, this nonsense will be swiftly resisted (I hope).

Well done Glinner. Stunning and brave indeed.

Bowlofbabelfish · 13/12/2018 17:34

He was given a police caution for verbal harassment

He was not cautioned.

R0wantrees · 13/12/2018 17:37

Chatting to a group of educational professionals today and EVERYONE was worried about gender non conforming children.
And everyone was also scared to say it.

This is so serious.
True also within Social Care.

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Ereshkigal · 13/12/2018 18:40

the last manifestation of which was a visit from the police when I shared a Sky News interview in which he was humiliated by feminist Posie Parker.”

Another genuine lol Grin

miri1985 · 13/12/2018 19:26

A writer for and weekend editor of inews is Benjamin Butterworth, a white man so dedicated to self ID he self ID' as black to take a space away from a BAME person (www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3209406-this-is-just-i-have-no-words) so no I won't be listening to what this publication has to say about anything

Apollo440 · 13/12/2018 20:05

He did not get a caution and saying he has a criminal record in this matter is libellous. The TRAs will use this falsehood as is thier style but no publication should get away with this lie. They should print a correction.

BirdseyeFrozen · 13/12/2018 21:23

He didn't actually compare the trans movement to Nazis at all, did he? He compared standing by and doing or saying nothing as akin to people doing that during the Nazi era in Germany.
This^
Spot on, Graham
This is about fakers and conmen not wanting you to expose them.
We see them.

BirdseyeFrozen · 13/12/2018 21:29

Harrop's number must be up soon with the GMC.
So must Hayden wotsiss, can't be getting much business in these days. Perhaps time for another name change and another company eh H?
Don't tell HMRC.

ProfessoressWoland · 13/12/2018 22:53

Now we find ourselves living in "interesting times" another ideology that is obviously wrong and dangerous was taking over, for a long time very few people dared to stand against it, and those that did were persecuted.

It's important to remember that Europe has enjoyed relative peace since WW2 because of the institutions and international laws that were put in place after the war. People might be slightly more enlightened and civilised these days, but ultimately it is the institutions and laws that keep the worst excesses in check. It's beyond naive to think that they can be dismantled when it comes to safeguarding and sex-based protections.
It didn't take long for some people to start exploiting the ambiguity created by the GRA and the Equality Act. It's time to go back to basics and reform the two acts together, because people just can't be expected to play nicely. Sex-based protections need to be clarified and the legal definition of transgender has to be made more meaningful so that it doesn't include lifestyle choices, fetishes and fads. And when that's done, we can cut the funding for the fluff research in this area.

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