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Comprehensive article by Helen Joyce (Economist's Finance Editor) 'The New Patriarchy: How Trans Radicalism Hurts Women, Children—and Trans People Themselves'

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R0wantrees · 05/12/2018 17:40

concludes:
“I can’t think of any genuine human-rights activism that demands attacks on the rights and protections of other civil-society groups, or advocates hateful language against them,” says Professor Bhatt. Trans activism is also unusual in that it gives men a chance to claim they are oppressed compared with women, and plenty of opportunity to tell women to shut up, says Ms. Gerlich. “It’s a postmodern patriarchal backlash.”

The code of omertà extends to academia. After lobbying by trans activists, Brown University in Rhode Island withdrew a press release about Prof. Littman’s paper on ROGD, citing concerns that it might be used to “discredit efforts to support transgender youth and invalidate the perspectives of members of the transgender community.” Last year, Bath Spa University, in southwest England, rejected a proposal by James Caspian, a psychotherapist who specializes in transgender clients, to write a thesis on de-transitioning, explaining that the research might be criticised on social media and it would be “better not to offend people.” Kathleen Stock, a philosopher at Sussex University, wrote a Medium post in May about the lack of discussion of gender self-ID within academic philosophy. Trans-activists called for her to be sacked—and she received dozens of supportive emails from other academics, most saying they dared not speak out publicly.

The aim of all this, says Jane Clare Jones, a British freelance writer and philosopher, is not only to silence dissent, but to make it impossible to state any distinction between trans women and cis ones. Since women are oppressed because they are female, not because of feminine feelings or presentation, this linguistic erasure is “profoundly anti-feminist.” Statements such as “trans women are women” and labels such as TERF are what Robert Jay Lifton, who wrote about indoctrination and mind control in Maoist China, dubbed thought-terminating clichés: “brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases…that become the start and finish of any ideological analysis.”

In the United States, criticism of gender self-ID is complicated by partisan politics. Women who elsewhere might sound the alarm do not want to be seen as in alliance with right-wing FOX News hosts and conservative Christians who are also against gay rights and abortion rights. The most organized opposition is in Britain, where government-mandated legislative consultations provided a focal point for campaigning groups such as WPUK. Mumsnet, a parenting website founded in 2000, is less hostile to women’s discussions of trans issues (though it now removes posts that “misgender” people). And the feisty British tabloid press has not shied away from covering rapists self-identifying themselves into women’s jails, boys allowed into Girlguiding and the like. The Daily Mail fought an injunction to be able to report on Jess Bradley, a trans woman suspended in July from the post of trans-rights officer at the National Union of Students because of allegations that she ran a blog named Exhibitionizm, where she posted pictures of her exposed penis, taken in public places and in her office.

The singular focus on gender self-ID, along with the shutting down of academic work on trans issues, harms not only women, but trans people. Although trans activists’ ire is focused on women who object to self-ID, it is overwhelmingly men who commit violence against trans people, a problem that by comparison is ignored. And other causes that are important to trans people, such as more research on the causes and treatment of gender dysphoria and its links with other mental-health issues, not to mention the long-term effects of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, have become taboo.

Overall, the push for gender self-ID does more harm than good to the interests of gender-dysphoric people whose main concern is to be accepted by members of the sex they wish they had been born into. And as we see more cases of people claiming transgender status in bad faith, we may see a backlash. “We were living quite happily in women’s spaces getting on with our lives before this stuff blew up,” says Melissa, the trans person I quoted at the beginning of this essay. Which is one reason why, far from supporting self-ID, she wants to see the rules for changing legal sex made tougher: “If you want access to women’s spaces, you should have to show you’re no more risk to women than other women are.”

Needless to say, she has been called “transphobic, a cis quisling, and a sell-out.” But women’s worries about their privacy and safety should not be brushed off or shouted down, she says. That is something women had to endure for millennia, under the old-fashioned patriarchal societies of yore. And they shouldn’t have to stand for it now that it has been rekindled under a new progressive guise."
quillette.com/2018/12/04/the-new-patriarchy-how-trans-radicalism-hurts-women-children-and-trans-people-themselves/

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Comprehensive article by Helen Joyce (Economist's Finance Editor) 'The New Patriarchy: How Trans Radicalism Hurts Women, Children—and Trans People Themselves'
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Beagadorsrock · 05/12/2018 18:00

very good indeed

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/12/2018 18:45

I'll second that - thanks for the link!

AncientLights · 05/12/2018 18:50

'The most organised oppposition is in Britain..' So proud Smile

welshgendercrit · 05/12/2018 18:53

Bookmarked to read at leisure later, but it looks good.

Needmoresleep · 05/12/2018 19:20

Brilliant. The Economist has genuinely international reach. Brave in that such a message may not be popular in the US.

Needmoresleep · 05/12/2018 19:21

Sorry. Just realised its not in the Economist. But bravo anyway.

HumberElla · 05/12/2018 19:26

Hmmm, not published in the Economist but this person writes for them, yes? The Economist is increasingly GC I’ve noticed.
Excellent - I skim read this but am going back to it later.

R0wantrees · 05/12/2018 19:29

Yes apologies, hoped the screenshot made clear.
Helen Joyce is The Economists' Finance Editor, this article by her is published by Quillette.

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Yeahnahyeah · 05/12/2018 19:34

Excellent. We need more of this. Thanks rOwantrees.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 05/12/2018 19:40

Excellent article. Thanks for posting it.

MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 19:43

Great writing, pretty much shows how we got to where we are and asks all the right questions.

rightreckoner · 05/12/2018 19:48

Wonder why it’s not in the Economist...

MrGHardy · 05/12/2018 20:03

The Economist has started some time ago to question all this. Started with an article about two books on "identity politics". Then they banned the use of "TERF". They get it. The people I mean, I realize she wrote it elsewhere.

welshgendercrit · 05/12/2018 20:20

The Economist did a series of 10 articles on gender issues over two weeks last summer. Well worth reading.

R0wantrees · 05/12/2018 20:29

October 2018 Amy Dyess article, “TERF Is Hate Speech and It’s Time to Condemn It”
(extract)
"You don’t have to be a radical feminist to be labeled a TERF. A lesbian can make it clear she believes trans people deserve human rights and respect, but she’s still a “TERF” because her sexual orientation has an innate boundary. That boundary is same-sex attraction for other adult human females. Lesbians are the only sexual orientation that excludes penis, and that makes us the most dangerous adversary to the patriarchy.

Extremists don’t believe women, chiefly lesbians, deserve boundaries. That’s what this issue is all about. They disguise their misogyny and homophobia as social justice in order to gain support from people who are misinformed. So-called “progressives” are openly oppressing and condemning the homosexual community, primarily the lesbian community.

The Economist has banned the use of “TERF” in articles and comments because the slur “may have started as a descriptive term but is now used to try to silence a vast swathe of opinions on trans issues, and sometimes to incite violence against women.” Unfortunately, too many journalists and sites have decided to do the opposite. Even editors are doubling down on their misogyny and homophobia." (continues)

medium.com/@amydyess83/terf-is-hate-speech-and-its-time-to-condemn-it-6efc897ce407

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Knicknackpaddyflak · 05/12/2018 20:32

Excellent article. The comments are dispiriting though. More and more men appearing in comments columns gleefully saying this is caused by radical feminism and women (who were uppity and didn't want to accept subordination and got out of their place) are now reaping what they deserve.

Men really do hate women. And will egg on transgenderism because they will enjoy seeing the punishment of women. Plus ca change.

AnchorMum · 05/12/2018 21:00

This is a fantastic article that ties so much together. Thanks for posting.

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 05/12/2018 21:16

This is excellent - so comprehensive!

And it covers so much of the recent developments even down to (I assume - unless there is more than 1 incidence of this) JessicaJayne, the transwoman banned from twitter for misgendering herself (which is possibly peak-bonkers?)

I've sent this to DP to give him an overview of what I have been obsessively reading about for the past few months

GrinitchSpinach · 05/12/2018 21:22

This is a superb summary of the current state of affairs. I am gathering up the courage to send it to someone close to me who had a knee-jerk "we should all be kind!" reaction the first time I broached the topic.

ChattyLion · 05/12/2018 21:33

Thanks for sharing this.

HouseOfMouse · 05/12/2018 22:10

That article is excellent. It covers the concerns so clearly.

KinCat · 06/12/2018 01:12

Brilliant article.

Goposie · 06/12/2018 02:11

Really good article!

AspieAndProud · 06/12/2018 02:37

Great article.

By the way, I’ve never actually read The Economist. I thought it was just about, you know, economics or something. That’s why I was surprised when they banned the word ‘terf’. I couldn’t see why they’d be printing it in the first place. Is ‘terf accounting’ a thing?