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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Pixars "Brave" is a story of a transboy

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jasper2367 · 04/12/2018 18:02

Saw this on reddit.
gaychristiangeek.blogspot.com/2012/07/bear-bow-and-boy-queering-pixars-brave.html

1950's logic: Tough and Brave=Boys, Helpless and weak= Girls

2018 logic: Tough and Brave=Boys, Helpless and weak= Girls
Nothing has changed.

When shows like Wonder Woman, Xena, and Buffy came out, it showed girls that women can be brave, tough, and hero's. This was a change in the right direction. Now in 2018, if a girl is brave or tough, then she isn't a girl, but a boy. Apparently, we are going back to telling girls that only boys can be the hero, only boys can save the world, and that girls have to be the victim so they can be saved by the hero. I mean, gee, can't understand why so many girls hate being girls and wished they were boys 🙄

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LauraMipsum · 06/12/2018 13:06

It's an old article (2012) but yes, plainly sexist. Merida isn't happy about being compelled into restrictive gender roles, uncomfortable clothes, giving up her hobbies and undergoing forced marriage because those things are shit not because "cis" girls would be totally fine with it.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 06/12/2018 13:16

If you don't cling to the sex stereotypes though you'd have to confront that actually your body is fine the way it is, you are fine being the way you are, and your unhappiness and needs can't be escaped from by identifying as trans.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 06/12/2018 13:25

I think it is unfair Knicknack. Yes, in some trans quarters they seem to view everything in a misogynistic stereotypical view, but there are many people who struggle because of the way they are perceived by society in terms of gender expectations. They might be fine with how they are in themselves, but fed up of the baggage of gender expectations. I think gender is a social construct, but that does not mean it doesn't exist, and that people aren't affected by it.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 06/12/2018 15:23

I think gender is a social construct, but that does not mean it doesn't exist, and that people aren't affected by it.

As a lesbian that came out over four decades ago, and at the time spent a lot of time with other lesbians and gay young adults going through the same process, yes, I think we all noticed that. Smile I am grateful the trans wasn't a thing at the time because I think many of us, me included, would have found it an easier temporary escape. I worry very much how many young transmen are going to reach the point in their 30s of being lesbians living with medical disabilities because society was afraid of having the hard conversations.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 06/12/2018 15:28

And I'll add if Brave was a story of a young woman struggling with severe gender dysphoria, hating her body and choosing transition, great. We're talking though about people 'transing' female characters to control gender stereotypes to validate their own emotional needs, regardless of the impact on society and on girls in particular.

I'm much, much less ok with that.

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