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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Female and disabled

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IChargeAtYou · 03/12/2018 12:02

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Please consider using the fund and standing.

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IChargeAtYou · 03/12/2018 12:04

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Providing access costs for disabled candidates
The EnAble Fund for Elected Office is intended to cover the additional financial costs associated with a disability or health condition, that would otherwise prevent someone from seeking elected office

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IChargeAtYou · 03/12/2018 12:06

You must self-identify as having a disability, as defined by the Equality Act 2010. We may ask for some form of verification of your needs, such as a letter from a healthcare professional.

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Badgerthebodger · 03/12/2018 12:13

I don’t self-identify as having a disability. I just have one. I absolutely would not ever “self-identify” into having it because it’s really shit and has basically ruined my life as I knew it. What is it with this “self-identify” language everywhere? I’m sure they think it ticks some lovely inclusive box and they can move on but in most situations I have seen it in it’s just fucking insulting.

TashaYar · 03/12/2018 12:23

I think self-identifying is meant to give the power back to the disabled person, @Badgerthebodger, rather than a situation where you’re only recognised as disabled if some government official or other authority figure says you are. But as a disabled person myself, I still feel my disability has been thrust upon me unwanted as well.

ViragoKnows · 03/12/2018 12:25

You must self-identify as having a disability, as defined by the Equality Act 2010. We may ask for some form of verification of your needs, such as a letter from a healthcare professional.

What kind if gobbledygook is that?

If they require evidence, then theyre not accepting self identification of disability, are they? (Thank goodness!)

Badgerthebodger · 03/12/2018 12:30

Tasha that may well be the intention. I personally feel it buys into the wider, government-sponsored and media-reinforced view that disabled people somehow chose to have their disability. I mean surely, if you can self-identify as being disabled you can self-identify as being well? Mind over matter and all that. To me that sounds like the sort of language and viewpoints that have led to disabled people being treated like absolute scum, having to beg and plead for the scanty benefits still available.

UpstartCrow · 03/12/2018 12:31

You have to 'identify' as disabled because there isn't a registry of disabled people, or a set definition of disability.

Unfortunately politics is not open to disabled people who are on benefits, as participation would be used as evidence that we are fit for work.

ViragoKnows · 03/12/2018 12:34

The DDA is based around a definition of disability. Thats the one ised dor most purposes.

And, “self identify” means no evidence is required. Hence all the GRA business.

WongaGoneWronga · 03/12/2018 13:23

Or how about just NOT co-opting disabled people to make your points about how much you don't like self ID for gender.

Disabled people have self IDed for a long time, whether it is described using those exact terms or not. It has nothing to do with the GRA at all.

Thank you OP for sharing this here to let more disabled people know about this funding avenue. It is notoriously difficult to engage in political campaigning for elected office as a disabled person, even without the added complications of benefits.

This fund aims to help address that barrier so that's disabled people are better respresented in political spheres. It's much needed, and deserves better than to be picked over because of using the dread phrase "self identifies".

ViragoKnows · 03/12/2018 13:28

Or how about just NOT co-opting disabled people to make your points about how much you don't like self ID for gender.

Not at all. “Self identify” has a specific meaning. They didn't just say “identify”.

Disabled people have self IDed for a long time, whether it is described using those exact terms or not. It has nothing to do with the GRA at all.

Disabled identity is a thing, for sure. But most funded schemes, HR purposes, basic disabled admin require proof. I have a special file of scanned proofs just for the purpose.

ViragoKnows · 03/12/2018 13:33

And DFOD with your “co-opting”. I cant co-opt myself, you twit.

WongaGoneWronga · 03/12/2018 14:53

DFOD is an oddly misogynist slant on telling someone to fuck off on a feminist board.

EchoCardioGran · 03/12/2018 19:40

I am a person with disabilities /I am disabled.
I do not "self identify" as disabled. FFS
I have to PROVE my disabilities, using medical evidence, to get a disability bus pass, a disability train pass, a blue badge, PIP etc. It's humiliating, very often, when dealing with random strangers, never mind the abuse I've encountered along the way, emotional, verbal and physical.

If I went to the DWP tomorrow and told them that I "self identified" as disabled and to please put me in the ESA support group they would tell me to jog on.

Feck off with the " self id" shit. I don't self identify my conditions. It is insulting to suggest that we have some kind of choice. Patronising crap.

Excellent book, and thank you for the link OP.

PerkingFaintly · 03/12/2018 19:48

I've had a previous version of the book and can testify it was excellent.

ViragoKnows · 03/12/2018 21:45

DFOD is an oddly misogynist slant on telling someone to fuck off on a feminist board.

In what way? FO isn’t sex specific.

ViragoKnows · 03/12/2018 21:46

I do not "self identify" as disabled. FFS
I have to PROVE my disabilities, using medical evidence, to get a disability bus pass, a disability train pass, a blue badge, PIP etc. It's humiliating, very often, when dealing with random strangers, never mind the abuse I've encountered along the way, emotional, verbal and physical.

Quite.

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