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KenDoddsDadsDogsDead18 · 03/12/2018 09:01

Open letter which might be of interest. I don't know the ins and outs of this case but it just popped up on my timeline & thought it might be of interest.

twitter.com/gendergp/status/1069489167418183681?s=21

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KenDoddsDadsDogsDead18 · 03/12/2018 09:02

I really should proof read, before pressing "post."

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/12/2018 09:03

Sentencing today? I’m interested to see how this pans out. The comments/photos under the tweet says it all really.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 03/12/2018 09:07

I imagine that there are people they have genuinely helped, and it was the right thing for the people involved. And there probably isn't adequate knowledge in general GP practice to help people with dysphoria etc. But doing good things doesn't excuse the bad.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/12/2018 09:13

She wasn’t the one to judge. She went against guidelines and good practice.

AngryAttackKittens · 03/12/2018 09:17

Doctors don't get to break medical guidelines just because they feel like it. Doing so potentially put patients in danger, and that's why they can't be allowed to do it.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/12/2018 09:21

I can’t quite remember the full facts - but didn’t she diagnose and prescribe on the scantest of checks (and now always face to face)? I suspect (oh cynical me) that money was a bit of a factor here.

PencilsInSpace · 03/12/2018 09:29

This conviction will have far-reaching consequences.

Good.

This woman prescribed cross sex hormones to a 12 year old child.

I hope she gets a very hefty fine today and I hope she is then struck off by GMC.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/12/2018 09:34

So she is now at risk of lawsuits from parents who have woken up to the fact that she had no right to prescribe these drugs to their child, and most likely will have caused them ongoing health and mental develop issues?

Bowlofbabelfish · 03/12/2018 10:32

‘How did I get here?’

By providing an illegal and unlicensed medical clinic that prescribed dangerous, life altering drugs to underage children.

That’s how.

Is there possibility of a custodial sentence?

KenDoddsDadsDogsDead18 · 03/12/2018 11:25

I thought I had read about that Pencils but the lack of reference to it in the open letter made me think I'd got it wrong. Is that correct then & is it illegal? I know google is my friend here.

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Knicknackpaddyflak · 03/12/2018 11:27

Those comments.... in this lunacy the (temporary) end always justifies the means. Stuff law breaking, ethics, the wider consequences, practice, policies, just meet the emotional need of the moment.

arranbubonicplague · 03/12/2018 11:47

Many of them wrote to my regulators to plead with them to not restrict my work as it would impact their treatment. But their letters were ignored.

Some of the most egregious cases brought to court or the GMC attracted thousands of letters in support of the doctor involved from grateful patients and families. Cliche time, but this includes Shipman.

And as for this self-serving twaddle:

I have never seen such terrible medical negligence in any other specialty. The perception is that their medical needs are not urgent, pressing or desperate. Their cries of anguish, their tears of desperation...are ignored.

Maybe she should drop by any of the many endocrinology peer to peer support boards. Or some of the non-curable, poorly-managed musculoskeletal conditions? Or the women's health boards that are full of women who take decades to obtain a diagnosis because nobody takes them seriously? (14 year time lag for endometriosis. 12 years for coeliac's anyone?)

Choose whatever speciality you want - but don't dare to justify it by saying that this is a group that is more tormented than any other and imply that every other demographic (including women) is already well served.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 03/12/2018 12:00

Exactly.

They may have a point that there is inadequate medical support for trans people. But that does not justify illegally prescribing to kids.

Iused2BanOptimist · 03/12/2018 12:03

If nothing else she's surely guilty of being a fool. Thinking rules and regulations don't apply to her. No sympathy.

Iused2BanOptimist · 03/12/2018 12:04

Also has anyone taken a look at any company finances that have been filed?
This would seem to be quite a lucrative line of work with so little competition.

arranbubonicplague · 03/12/2018 12:18

Tiny fine in the scheme of things. £12K plus approx £12K costs.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3441380-Criminal-gender-GP-Helen-Webberley-fined-12k

AngryAttackKittens · 03/12/2018 12:23

Is she still legally allowed to practice? That's far more important than any fine.

MistressFunbox · 03/12/2018 13:29

I think that's a decision for the GMC Kittens

incallthebloodytime · 03/12/2018 13:39

Oh 2 threads running

Said this on the other one. Andrew Wakefield- patients supported. Still unethical

These people think that because vulnerable people ask - they should because they can't get it elsewhere. There is a reason for that... ethics and codes of practice

OldCrone · 03/12/2018 13:40

Is she still legally allowed to practice?

No.

This person has been suspended from the Medical Register and may not practise as a doctor in the UK.

www.gmc-uk.org/registration-and-licensing/the-medical-register/a-guide-to-the-medical-register/find-a-doctors-record

I've posted more about this on the other thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3441380-Criminal-gender-GP-Helen-Webberley-fined-12k

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/12/2018 16:23

But has a business in Spain I think? Maybe brexit may be have one good thing if she can’t just up sticks and move out to Spain and play God.

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