I'm feeling brave - I've just emailed an organisation about their 'inclusive' toilets.

[MissisBoote]

Spotted this sign a few weeks ago at our local arts venue. The toilets are about 60 years old so usual style of a row of toilets with wonky locks and a shared sink area when you come out of the cubicle. The sign was next to both the male and female toilets.

I've just sent them an email highlighting the need for single sex toilets. Didn't mention anything to do with trans or self identification as I didn't want their response to get side tracked. I'll be interested to read their response.

I've been a lurker on this topic over the last year, but increasingly feeling more angry that women's rights are continuing to be trampled over

Wow
I've just had a really positive response from them inviting me to have further discussion with them about it as they're planning a refurb and want to get it right so that everyone feels safe using the facilities.

I hope that means they will have female, male AND mixed sex toilets. I don’t want to share a female space with people with peni, no matter how they identify.

Also point out to them that changing the disabled toilets to a unisex, as in anyone can use it, rather than a toilet for both sexes that have disabilities would not be an acceptable compromise.

Absolutely

Great result!

I visited a newish restaurant chain recently who are as they quote 'LGBT Friendly' and that prenises is ' A transgender safe space'
Wnet to the loos not knowing what to expect and was pleasantly suprised to find nothing more than a spacious corridor with multiple single cubicles with sinks and driers inside....didnt realise it could be sooo simple!

*premises

Well done Miss! Great point PERF, too often the answer is to take away disabled people's toilet.

I wouldn't feel comfortable even with a corridor and single cubicles. I need that separate room and toilets only for ladies.

My son works in a old warehouse that's been refurbished into small units to be used as offices and studios. Their toilets are individual cubicles each containing a loo, sanitary bin, basin and dryer. I thought that was a great solution - I can't see the problem with it.

I contacted a well known store who had an anyone at all loo which was a room (which doubled as a baby change room) anyone could enter with a flimsy cubicle in the corner. They however also kept a separate lockable loo for males/disabled. I had a good response when i pointed out they had done away with a female loo but had kept a secure male loo - they quckly and satisfactorily dealt with my complaint.

Well done. Good thoughtful design can help everyone going forward

@invisible1234 can I ask why you wouldn't be comfortable with separate self-contained cubicles coming off a corridor?

Tell them to put a mirror in the disabled toilets. If they've the space a separate baby change one; I'm in a lot of disabled toilets due to baby changing and noticed a severe lack of mirrors.

Cubicles off a main thoroughfare is a good design for a disabled access or pushchair friendly toilet but in a busy building women need more toilets that that design will allow.

Cubicles off a secluded corridor is not a good design.

can I ask why you wouldn't be comfortable with separate self-contained cubicles coming off a corridor?

Have these at work; with a vent at the bottom of the door which I think they have to have.

If it's a busy corridor I must say I feel self conscious in the less deep ones and can almost see passing feet reflecting through the vents. But that's just me.

And yes, not enough toilets as a result

If they really want to get inclusive... Chair for breastfeeding in baby change one. Although there's a lot of talk about not feeding in toilets I have 3 reasons why I've had to over the years:

1.rubbish latch/ strong let down - had to feed lying down, or laid back. Comfy sofa was best here.

1. Due to latch/ let down it's often been far too noisy for me to hear if they're clicking or gulping in some places; I needed to hear how the swallowing sounds so have sometimes gone to the loos, and has to go in a cubicle if there's no where to sit, sitting on the loo. Which is terribly uncomfortable and shit on your back, esp after a section.

1. Nosy buggers. Would only feed properly in small quiet space. Which does matter if you're there for ages.

Couldn't give a toss about people watching it was the above points. Though lying down is awkward anywhere. I've avoided some visits out in the early days for this very reason. John Lewis has had the best feeding room to date!

I forgot to mention each "cubicle" was a room in itself solid walls top to bottom, with full heavy doors. I had 100 percent privacy, much more relaxing than in the ladies room. For what its worth the corridor was not isolated as such, it was all pretty open with high bannisters you can see downstairs and if you were seated in certain areas you could see up there too, it was covered by cameras, had all the offices, staff area etc up there too.
I didnt see anything wrong with it...seemed like a good solution.
Disabled toilet/baby change was downstairs but just off to the side in an alcove.

I wouldn't feel comfortable even with a corridor and single cubicles. I need that separate room and toilets only for ladies.

I'm inclined to agree. And I'd type more but what Crow said:

Cubicles off a main thoroughfare is a good design for a disabled access or pushchair friendly toilet but in a busy building women need more toilets that that design will allow. Cubicles off a secluded corridor is not a good design.

Or a safe one.