The earlier we educate kids about Trans the better

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Ok, this Metro article actually says LGBT not Trans, but we know where the thrust of it is. It's written by a 'trans guy' and in it the trans guy briefly describes that although born a girl they always knew they were a boy because of the outside pressure to be feminine.

One day I will read a story of s transed kid, whether by the kid themself ior the parents or a journalist where it is not about the failure to confirm to stereotypes or to fit in. But it hasn't happened yet and I'm not holding my breath.

I know this is nothing new to anyone here but why can people gereally not see the enormity of punishing kids who fail to conform to gendered stereotypes with lifelong medication and bodily mutilation?

This is a scandal of massive proportions, yet we have Mermaids retweeting this article in their never ending fucking recruitment drive to populate this cult

I'm so bloody angry.

metro.co.uk/2018/11/24/the-earlier-we-educate-children-about-what-it-means-to-be-lgbt-the-better-8165996/

metro.co.uk/2018/11/24/the-earlier-we-educate-children-about-what-it-means-to-be-lgbt-the-better-8165996/

I feel your pain.

When I spoke to the head of training and practice at the Sex Education Forum, a charity that advises schools and is supported by Stonewall, she said she felt “the earlier children are taught in schools about gender identity, the better”.

I find this quite a chilling statement in how it reflects the methodology of cults.

Totally agree.

A group of aggressive males want to groom the nation's children into denying biological reality - what could go wrong?

The word "dress" seems to come up in every thing I have seen too, especially to do with kids, that and "hair".

Having to indoctrinate children into the ideology of "gender identity" is proof in itself that it isn't an innate part of being human.

I think we need to work against it by teaching our kids that what they look like/dress like has nothing to do with biology and people can express themselves as they choose.

Trans activists are giving people compassion fatigue.

Agreed we must educate our own kids but that alone is not going to cut it. I think we each need to be making an appointment with our kids head teachers and going in to have a face to face discussion about this.

How are children going to learn how to self care being surrounded by these demanding narcissists and their echo? Memememe feels compassion for me! That person that person its all about them!

www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/somatic-psychology/201207/compassion-fatigue

Reducing compassion fatigue means not fighting the symptoms but working with feelings which occur during and after the interactions with the traumatized patient. One psychotherapist shared; “If I start to not feel my body, I pause and just take a moment.” There is a lot to take in. Giving oneself permission to take a break for a short time and taking care of oneself, may not only help the caregiver but may also provide a role model of self-care for the patient. Taking a break might be just stoping and feeling one’s body, asking the patient to slow down, taking a deep breath, or making a small movement, which are forms of regulating the nervous system and decreasing the stress of working with traumatized patients.

I think we need to work against it by teaching our kids that what they look like/dress like has nothing to do with biology and people can express themselves as they choose

Exactly this

We have a mental health crisis in this country and trans activists want to make it worse by using children and wrecking the mental health of yet more children.

Instead of teaching children self care, they want to teach children to be carers to confused people and to gaslight the nation.

www.goodtherapy.org/blog/the-cost-of-caring-10-ways-to-prevent-compassion-fatigue-0209167

I think we need to work against it by teaching our kids that what they look like/dress like has nothing to do with biology and people can express themselves as they choose

Absolutely this. And actually put some legal protections in place. So women and men are not forced to wear different uniforms for example (in school or the workplace) - specifically that men can wear skirts if skirts are suitable for the working environment. And that hairstyles cannot be gender segregated either. Etc.

Oh I'm educating my DC about LGBT issues. The LGB takes care of itself given their various family members and our social circle. They've never known any different. The T? Two gender critical parents, critical thinking skills and a school which is hot on biology are providing a good foundation.

It’s a tiny step but I’ve put these posters up at my school.

I am educating my kids as topics come up. On occasion of my 5 year old son opining there are girl toys and boy toys, I told him everyone can play with anything. I told him that there are people who think what makes you a boy or a girl depends on what you like to play with or wear, which is silly, because in reality being a girl or a boy just a question of girl bits vs boy bits and you are free to play with what you like. (I also told him to be nice to kids who think they are not what their anatomy says, because it is the adults teaching them this who should know better. So far he does not know any, so that was hypothetical).

Now, 2-3 years later, the topic of parents came up, and he said, that it is always a mum and a dad. I chimed in: Well, you can have two dads or two mums instead, too. And he said: but they are not real parents, just step parents then, right? Because you need a sperm cell and an egg, right (thank you 'once upon a time...life'!!!) On which occasion I explained to him the principles of adoption and what makes a parent...

I am sure most parents talk about these things, after all these are questions kids will have, sooner or later. However, I get the impression what TRAs are concerned with is implanting some 'tenets of faith' in children's minds before the kids ask questions and the parents get a chance to answer.

FamilyOfAliens

I like those posters.

I really like these posters! Family. Where are they from?

Yes, the Jesuits knew long ago that if you get kids young, there's a good chance of them buying into your religion wholesale, too.

Quite rightly, we are moving away from a society where such powerful outside-the-family forces are allowed to have completely free access to young minds, although obviously it's still quite a point of contention.

Why should the newest religion on the block get a pass?

And this persistent shiftyness about 'gender identity' being different to 'gender expression' is all just part of the belief system. It's meant to seem sophisticated, but it's just a method of both distancing from the critique of stereotypes and attempting to claim privilege for something metaphysical and unknowable like a gendered soul.

Honestly, if that's your religion, fine. You do not get to impose it on others.

I completely agree. My 10 year old knows that trans people wish they were born the opposite sex and sometimes have surgery when they are adults, or change their names and clothes to look like the opposite sex but that they can never be the opposite sex.

Educate your kids people :)

elisegravel.com/en/

Found the posters.

In the context of the article saying LGBT really doesn't make sense to me. The T seems to be a pull in the opposite direction to the L and the G.

My kids are aware of LGB people because we know LGB people. I am also always careful not to assume the sex of their future partners - I will always say man OR woman. And we talk about the myriad of different ways to be a family as well as the actuality of a sperm and an egg being needed to make a baby. But all this is easy because we know a diverse selection of people who provide real life examples.

I am not currently close to anybody trans, so it has not yet come up. I am unsure of how I'd raise it at the moment. My friend's school had an eating disorder epidemic after what was supposed to be a helpful awareness raising lesson turned out to be an accidental instruction manual.

I think it is possible to hold the position that I would expect my kids to treat a trans person with the same degree of respect they reserve for anybody else, whilst not wanting my kids to be trans themselves. This is the same position I would take with, for example, being very overweight or having a breast enlargement. This is because I believe we have only one life and only one body and that treating your body well and accepting it is a route to happiness. I've had a close family member extremely ill and disabled for years and I would not wish hospitals or reliance on medication on anybody. That doesn't mean I didn't love, accept and respect that family member!

(it goes without saying my kids would be welcome to dress/hairstyle anyway they wish and call themselves whatever. But I would not gaslight them that they could change sex and I would not wish unnecessary surgery or medication on them)

If you read around you'll find quite intentional TRA planning that the message needed to go to children as early as possible, with the openly specified intent of getting to them before their parents and the adults around them had time to - well. Give them messages the TRAs find unhelpful, shall we say?

Sorry people who asked about the posters - I was at work with mumsnet blocked .

Yes, they’re the ones, show. She has loads of lovely posters for children and she says you can download them for free if it’s just for your own use