Another batshit legal decision

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6419723/Mothers-ex-taught-son-one-call-slag-years-harrowing-abuse.html

This has made me angry at a point where I am already feeling so angry about men and their abuse.

Women are not considered to be vulnerable unless completely broken or dead Women aren't even victims of murder when they are dead if their killer says it happened rough sex they consented too.

The Unduly Lenient Sentence Scheme;
www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review

You can email or phone, you need some details of the case;
-name of the person who got the sentence
-date the sentence was given
-court where the case was held
-crime committed

Defendant Paul Measor was jailed for five months for two common assaults at Teesside Magistrates’ Court in October.
If anyone can find the date it would help.

Mail readers showing a better understanding of DA than a judge! You could not make this up!!

That's the scheme I was taking about, so thanks for the actual link @UpstartCrow.

Maybe it was you that posted it previously, asking for support to increase Jason Gaskell's sentence (as I hadn't heard about it prior to that)?
I complained about the sentence Jason Gaskell received, and received a confirmation email acknowledging receipt, but don't actually know what the outcome was.

Well no one seems to have understand this case yet. Still, I must be vigilant against the offence of mansplaining.

[hint] : go back to the article to see the charge for which he was acquitted and work it out from there. Google is your friend.

What do you mean, Sawdust? That he was acquitted of the charge of coercive control? That's exactly the problem here, isn't it?

The problem here is that this relatively new offence requires that the actions of the perpetrator have had a “serious adverse effect” on the victim. This is unlike the crimes of assault or rape where the emotional effect on the victim is only relevant to sentencing, not conviction. The judge felt that they didn’t. I find this a bit weird, but maybe the prosecution didn’t set out the effects very well. Or yes, maybe the judge is just a bit rubbish.

Being controlled like that for 4 years has got to have a serious effect, even if the woman didn't look and sound humiliated and broken enough to satisfy a judge who presumably only met her once.
I remember the cricketer case.
Did anyone see the "No Great Trauma" documentary? We were shown it in school over 20 years ago. Nothing changes.

I wonder if this would be an ideal focal point for complaining that FPFW might be able to coordinate?

If anybody knows any of the personnel there?

How high must this judges bar be to convinct for coercive control???
What does it mean if not this???

Powershower, thing is, even if the judge has only met her once, shouldn’t matter. The prosecution has the responsibility of securing the conviction. A detailed statement would or should have been taken addressing the issue of ‘serious adverse affect”, and then she would have given verbal evidence at trial based on the statement with the prosecution asking her relevant questions.
It is only guesswork at to whether someone didn’t do their job properly.

Well, I’ve just had a look - there are two ways of showing serious effect

I it causes B to fear, on at least two occasions, that violence will be used against them - s.76 (4)(a); or
If it causes B serious alarm or distress which has a substantial adverse effect on their day-to-day activities - s.76 (4)

Then there are some examples of what might constitute the latter one- non exhaustive-.

Stopping or changing the way someone socialises
Physical or mental health deterioration
A change in routine at home including those associated with mealtimes or household chores
Attendance record at school
Putting in place measures at home to safeguard themselves or their children
Changes to work patterns, employment status or routes to work

Obviously the easier one to go for is the first, as that less open to interpretation.

My violent coercive controlling relationship when I was 18/19 has affected me ever since, and I've had another one since then.