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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Comic Relief's Response on the Women Wednesday debacle

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candidpeel · 22/11/2018 14:36

Comic Relief has published a response to the reaction to their "Women Wednesday" Hmm debacle www.comicrelief.com/news/gender-justice-continuing-conversation

(see previous thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3424051-Comic-Relief-Women-Wednesdays-Really)

Last week, as part of our month-long focus on Comic Relief’s Gender Justice pillar, we celebrated Trans Awareness Week. At Comic Relief we have always prided ourselves on funding organisations who are fearlessly standing up for people’s rights, and we wanted to highlight the brilliant work that some of our grantees and partners are doing for Trans Rights.

Throughout this month we’ve been choosing women to celebrate on ‘Women Wednesdays’ across our social media channels, and so in fitting with our theme of Trans Awareness, we celebrated Lili Elbe. Many of you have got in touch to share your appreciation of us doing so, however, we’ve also heard from a lot of people who thought this was the wrong choice, and by making this choice we were undermining our support of women’s rights.

We value and respect these contributions, which help to highlight the complexities and sensitivities of the issues we’re grappling with, and we also take seriously our commitment to be as inclusive and impactful as possible towards tackling social injustice.

Since Comic Relief started, we have funded work that is supporting those who have experienced Gender Based Violence and are continuing to do so. We have also funded and are now primarily focussed on, work which is fundamentally shifting the power structures that enable and engender this violence. This has historically focussed on violence against women and girls and this will continue to be a mainstay of our work, however we also recognise that supporting an end to Gender Based Violence includes standing with the LGBTQ community.

We will however, always support the right of organisations we work with to determine for themselves how they can best support their community, and work towards social justice in their context. We recognise that this means that sometimes we will support organisations who have contradicting views and principles.

Most importantly, however, we want to ensure that what we do and what we say is part of a continuing conversation about the major challenges of our times. However complex, however difficult. We will never knowingly be part of closing that down. As we develop our work going forward as a creative agency for social change, we will continue to listen to our friends and friendly critics who want to engage in this conversation with us.

Ruth Davison
Impact and Investment Executive Director

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I think it is good they have committed to "always support the right of organisations we work with to determine for themselves how they can best support their community, and work towards social justice in their context.We recognise that this means that sometimes we will support organisations who have contradicting views and principles."

--this means they won't impose TWAW on the organisations that apply for funding.

But "Throughout this month we’ve been choosing women to celebrate on ‘Women Wednesdays’" is disengenous...... like no one noticed that Lili Elbe was the first "woman wednesday" Hmm

And no apology or statement about whether Comic Relief view calling women "T.E.R.F.s " acceptable.

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littlecabbage · 22/11/2018 14:48

A load of waffle basically. They haven't admitted they were wrong but have obviously had enough women complaining to think twice next time.

uglyandlovingit · 22/11/2018 16:08

Hmmmmm... I wonder if they've lost some donors over this stunt?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 22/11/2018 16:10

Trans Awareness Week

Can i just check, there was no mention of Trans Awareness Week was there, it was put up as a Women Wednesday post?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 22/11/2018 16:11

I think very slowly companies have realised they've been misled on public acceptance of trans Women being women.

candidpeel · 22/11/2018 16:29

No you are right CaptainKirksSpookyghost There is no mention of trans awareness week here on the blog or on the tweet "Women Wednesday's" www.comicrelief.com/news/women-wednesdays-heres-why-lili-elbe-our-inspirational-figure-week but there is on the FB post.

There was a general "we'll be talking all things trans" for trans awareness week tweet

(.... so yeah, November is #genderjustice month but with a 1/4 of the time that would have gone to women and girls given over to "all things trans". I wonder why not just pick a different month to avoid the clash? Celebrate trans awareness week AND have a whole month for talking about issues affecting women and girls??)

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cheminotte · 22/11/2018 16:39

Totally agree candid, if it was every Wednesday for a year it wouldn’t matter so much. Just like 2 or 3 of the BBC’s women of the year are also trans but not 1/4 of them.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 22/11/2018 16:40

Blah blah blah. Missed the whole point any woman who complained was making.

And there is no such thing as gender based violence.

silentcrow · 22/11/2018 17:11

This has historically focussed on violence against women and girls and this will continue to be a mainstay of our work, however we also recognise that supporting an end to Gender Based Violence includes standing with the LGBTQ community.

Translation: "We get funding for the cunty stuff so we're not going to jettison that, but we also want woke cookies and some of that lovely money sloshing around trans issues. So bollocks to you all."

indieshuffle · 22/11/2018 19:25

FFS. And did they even pick a woman this week? Or have they not even bothered.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 22/11/2018 19:41

‘Gender based violence’ - sugar coated, woke, dog shite nonsense to describe the very real and very male; male violence.

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