gender ideology in the NHS

[Beautifulday49]

A family member is a nurse working in a NHS community service. They have to go through all sorts of mandatory training, including recently one on Transgender Pathways.
They told me the specialist GP giving the lecture told them if someone consults the NHS showing signs of gender dysphoria, they refer them along, and ultimately the patient has a blood test which is used to diagnose transgender based on chromosomes.

But that seems to me like NHS doctors treating trans as intersex, and conflating the two. Am I missing something?
Is there another thread on this I should read to inform myself?

She sounds a bit mixed up.

Or the specialist GP is.

Another one saying that lines of communication have been badly crossed here.

You cannot "diagnose" being transgender on the basis of chromosomes. Your family member has misunderstood.

Not possible. She’s got her wires crossed and badly misunderstood something. Or the GP needs retraining (from GCSE level, by the sounds of it.)

OK...
It's possible my relative has got it wrong, as they said the lecture was 2 hours long and they had all lost the will to live.
I'll see if I can get any more info out of them.

the lecture was 2 hours long and they had all lost the will to live.

I bet. Sounds horrendous. Did they get any printed materials?

I've emailed them to ask for more info...

The NHS is taking gender diversity very seriously now. You have no idea how much more complexity to an already complex administration this thorny subject is likely to add.

But hats off to the NHS they are taking this most seriously.

Blood tests are taken to look for chromosomal anomalies as a first step but are rarely found. And judge hormone levels that have to be monitored. Maybe that was what was said.

AliceToo if this really was the case and the diagnosis of 'trans' was based on chromosomes I suspect that the complexity of this issue for the NHS would reduce significantly!

I imagine there's a lot of completely intact, both genitally and chromosomally, males who would object to a chromosome blood test to decide whether they're trans or not.

But this thread has reminded me that of course there are pathways and protocols, just like any condition:-

www.england.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/int-gend-proto.pdf

www.england.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Gender-identity-services-for-adults-non-surgical-interventions.pdf

(I can't see any chromosome blood tests in the pathways listed)

Hats off to the NHS - when they have to start grappling with an ideology (as that's exactly what it is, rather than reality) that's increasingly getting complex when men with sexual 'desires' to cross-dress and drag entertainers ask those with gender dysphoria to shuffle over a bit so they get to be under the 'trans umbrella' too. And get the NHS to bend at their will, if possible.

Narcissim at its finest.

Soz Tara - over to you again at approx 4 minutes in. 'Who is 'trans'?'

*narcissism

Can't spell!

I imagine there's a lot of completely intact, both genitally and chromosomally, males who would object to a chromosome blood test to decide whether they're trans or not.

Absolutely. TRAs might bang on about ‘science’ backing up their beliefs - though never quite getting around to citing sources - but the last thing they want is an objective test for gender dysphoria.

Relative tells me the blood test is to find out if chromosomes indicate male or female where the sex is not clear from genitals in a new born. Confusion stems from this being in a training on transgender.

Ok that’s the genetic testing done if a baby is born with ambiguous genitalia. That’s only a very small proportion of babies with intersex conditions - the majority it’s clear if they are Male or female.

Nothing to do with transgender - I wonder what the context of including it was?