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I think I've found a party I can vote for!

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SarahJane73 · 18/11/2018 20:48

morningstaronline.co.uk/article/communists-call-protection-womens-spaces

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lenaperkins · 18/11/2018 20:52

OK. That is interesting. What else is in the manifesto? As long as they’re not sending us to the gulags ....

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 18/11/2018 20:59

Looks like Communists might suddenly start becoming a little less niche...

Why is it the really niche parties, who are seen as having extreme views, who are taking the sensible view on this?

SarahJane73 · 18/11/2018 21:02

Why is it the really niche parties, who are seen as having extreme views, who are taking the sensible view on this?

Probably because transactivists haven't thought it worth their while infiltrating these parties.

It doesn't look like the Communists stand candidates in that many areas though. Sad

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groundcontroltomontydon · 18/11/2018 21:05

Very interesting

Silentlyobserving · 18/11/2018 21:49

Bangs head on table

TheMinorityEngineer · 18/11/2018 21:57

One form of thought police exchanged for another form of thought police.

The Chinese Communists during the Cultural Revolution used to label intellectuals or anyone they want to target as 'capitalist roaders' much the same way TRAs use 'bigot' and 'transphobe'. Once the label sticks, they are destroyed.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 18/11/2018 22:00

Nice to see some class-based analysis for a change

Bowlofbabelfish · 18/11/2018 22:00

Unmmmmm ... no i don’t think I’d like to vote communist. Some sort of scandiwegian social democracy is as left as I’m going.

But it’s a valid point. Who the fuck am I going to vote for?

MrsTerryPratcett · 18/11/2018 22:12

Would make a great protest vote. Are they pro-remain?

Prestonsflowers · 18/11/2018 22:42

My Constituency either votes Lib Dem, much loved popular man, or Conservative. Nobody else ever gets close, Labour or Plaid Cymru. So I think a Communist candidate has little or fuck all chance.
Green Party have some small presence but I emailed them after the Aimee Challenor debacle and the Green Party statement. I received a reply that said the Green Party in Wales disagreed with the Head Office line.
I emailed my MP after the Karen White story and received an anodyne answer, I let it rest but now. I’ve had a major life changing incident in my life and this is my line in the sand. If the Communist Party are the only ones to see the fuckwittery and madness that the TRAs are pushing then I’m not Spartacus any more . I’m a Communist
I’ve become quite active on Twitter, if I could work out how to use Twitter properly I’d probably have loads of fun. I’ll get there though

Floisme · 18/11/2018 22:56

But but .... aren’t we all supposed to be in league with the far right?

Iused2BanOptimist · 18/11/2018 23:42

I am totally ignorant of Canadian politics but it looks as if a push back is starting in one party anyway.

twitter.com/globalnewsto/status/1063825488320315393?s=20

everybodypuuuuulllll · 18/11/2018 23:44

Would make a great protest vote. Are they pro-remain?

Ha! Good point! Does anyone know?

AspieAndProud · 18/11/2018 23:55

As far as I can recall, the Communist Party were always anti-EU because it is a capitalist project.

Anyway, is this the Communist Party, the Communist Party UK or the Communist Party (Marxist Leninist)? They hate each other’s guts.

And at least one of them has a rape problem.

AspieAndProud · 18/11/2018 23:57

Sorry, that was the Socialist Worker’s Party.

Splitters.

ErrolTheDragon · 18/11/2018 23:58

They want 'a people's brexit' Hmm
morningstaronline.co.uk/article/communists-call-mass-mobilisation-against-mays-bogus-brexit

Prestonsflowers · 19/11/2018 00:13

Is this another Judeans people’s Front or the People’s Front of Judea?
The question of a people’s Referendum puzzles me. Who voted in the First Referendum?

MrsTerryPratcett · 19/11/2018 02:18

Splitters.

Proper LOL.

Unicyclethief · 19/11/2018 02:43

I wonder how Ash “I’m a communist, you idiot” Sarkar has taken this news, seeing as she typically throws women under the bus in the name of wokeness.

frogface69 · 19/11/2018 03:06

The socialist workers party is a man's party. Not a good place for women. I know. It late and my bedtime but I worry that young women especially think that they will at the vanguard of change and have equal rights. It's a pipe dream , men will take the labour and support and do whatever they want.

Manderleyagain · 19/11/2018 10:04

On another thread Gracethedisgrace said that in Greece, the only party who argued against self id, were the communists (I'm guessing they are a more serious party there than here). She posted what they said in parliament. The thinking behind political transactivism sits so uncomfortably with any politics which is collectivist, materialist, and class struggle based. Here are a few extracts (translated by Gracethedisgrace I think - I hope its ok to repost them here), but the whole post is worth looking at on the other thread.

"Individual, subjective experience is made absolute to the detriment of collective experience, in the rejection of objective reality itself, given that the sole criterion is simply, the experience of each individual. Such an obscene distortion of objectivity opens the way for the disfigurement of even the very meaning of 'rights' at all.

"We seek to defend, for example, the need for protective measures for women in the workplace. Hard-won rights such as these have, today, been cancelled. With the rejection of sex as an objective fact and the consideration of it as something that relies entirely on the desire and self-determination of each individual, we are moving even further away from that need to produce, to recognize, and to protect rights on the basis of sex.

"The government with this piece of legislation has as its goal to unhook individual rights from collective social rights, from financial, social, and political conditions. No individual right is guaranteed outside of collective rights; the development of one's self does not happen outside of society; nor can it be left to parental choice.

"The government and the other parties prioritize the same old bourgeois view that proclaims individual responsibility, individual competence, and choice as the greatest human right, with an aim to dissolve and do away with the non-negotiable, ecumenical character of the societal right, on the altar of Individualism.

The thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3402360-is-the-word-woman-being-eroded-in-other-countries

Manderleyagain · 19/11/2018 10:05

frogface69 - yes wasn't the swp who had that horrible situation with running their own rape trial (not to the benefit of the woman who said she's been raped). A few years ago.

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