Let's all identify as non-binary

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It's one way to take down Stonewall definitions making policy. Everyone is included in non-binary so we are all trans. I seriously have for the first time wanted to wear suspenders and a vest

That’s what I’ve ended up doing if the question ask for gender rather than sex.

But I’m also looking for female support workers and if I don’t indicate female myself in the system that’s harder for me to get.

It’s worth clarifying whether you want to wear American or British suspenders and a vest... they are two entirely different things!

(I recall collapsing in giggles then needing to explain why at a very formal meeting with a load of Americans when one middle-aged bloke said he was wearing his best suspenders. Mind you, perhaps he was just being non-binary).

Where I live, suspenders replace belts maybe? Wait. I like vests and they look good on everyone, right?

In British English, suspenders are what I think you call garters (they hold up stockings and only women wear them, usually they’re considered sexy). What you call suspenders we call braces.

A vest, by contrast, is what you call an undershirt, and can be worn by either sex, and is worn for warmth rather than sexual allure. What you call a vest we call a waistcoat.

Anyway, sorry for the derail. I agree, we should all be non binary and wear whatever we want, whatever we call it!

Except that, seriously, I do think we need to continue fighting for the word ‘woman’ as we need a way to describe our oppression as well as to fight for things like maternity services, rape crisis services, and separate toilets (among many other things) that we need on the basis of our biology, not how we dress.

I put non binary if they ask for gender. Under the equality act, I can still ask for a female as my sex is female

As a Brit, I had a very definite picture of what I thought you meant by suspenders, and as an old Yorkshire lass I pictured a vest as a sting vest as worn by Rab C Nesbitt. Which I think would kinda make a point.

Non-binary is the way to go. Very few people identify with each & every so-called masculine/feminine traits - which change over time & place anyway.

We area all unique not just those who insist only they are brave & stunning.

7 billion people on earth? Well that's 7 billion different gender identities..... so I demand a drop-down box on forms with 7 billion options . Until that happens, non-binary is the only way to go for 'gender'. Sex however remains binary & immutable.

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You are so right
How dare they oppress us by not including all 7 billion identities.
I'm shook

I think when asked gender I'm just going to put 'mine'

I refuse to answer these days. 'Sex' may be a relevant question but 'gender' is totally irrelevant.

No! We lose ground if we give up the term ‘woman’.

I plant my flag as a woman in sex and gender. That’s the term I want for me. I am not a minority and I won’t be subsumed into a general gender mish mash.

I reserve the right to wear suspenders, suspenders, garters, braces, waistcoats and vests as I see fit.

But I am not sure what women as a gender is, and I am not sure I am it. I am not happy saying my gender is woman.

Women as sex yes, gender, wtf.

I hope (!) that satiating gender non binary may help people understand the difference between sex and genedr and the problem of conflating the terms.

My 7 year old DD had a toy shop gift card to spend. Half of it went on Lego and the other half went on LOL dolls.

Clearly, she is non-binary. How do I tell her school? 🙄

Recent work survey, one that is repeated annually, I think. Anyway, first time I noted the question "What is your gender", and "male", "female", "non-binary" options. In retrospect I think I could have scrolled past it, but I ticked "non-binary".

Now, I don't recall that the distribution is typically disclosed in the results, but would be quite curious this time.

Unfortunately I feel it would legitimise it as being an actual thing rather than something that applies to approximately 7 billion people.

I'd prefer to be able to identify myself as a trans woman - as a woman who is Stonewall Trans(tm) but that's not going to work either, even without the abuse I'd get.

Or "do you mean sex? or personality?"

But we are all allowed to define ourselves as non-binary - as Stonewall say, nobody else can define your gender identity.

Presumably, you can chose to be a ‘non binary woman’ seeing as some folk are declaring themselves to be a ‘non binary trans woman’ - this would allow one to tap into any special schemes for transpeople, whilst not relinquishing one’s female birth sex?

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I am a non binary gender fluid femme presenting Demi boi.

I've decided that not only am I non binary, I'm hexadecimal.
Well it makes about as much sense as all the other gender identity shite.

I think now if I'm ever asked about my gender I'll be saying I don't recognise it as a valid term, because I don't. Had just gone along with it for years but now I see the harm that's causing I'm only going to answer questions about sex.

I usually tick 'other' on forms which ask for gender, and if I get to specify I write in 'My sex is female. Gender is a harmful social construct' or something to that effect.

It can backfire, though. I did it once for a survey and when I read the resultant report, found myself quoted as a 'non-binary participant'. Gah. How do we avoid propping up their ideology at all?

I did try arguing on Twitter once that by TRAs' definitions of gender, I'm non-binary. They told me I couldn't be unless I had an androgynous name and made-up pronouns. As I don't, I must have a silly ladybrain that doesn't even know it's a ladybrain. How lucky I had those nice TRAs to tell me they know my own mind better than I do.

I was recently admitted to hospital and noticed that my admission form said Gender -Female, I crossed it out and wrote Sex -Female. I did the same on my notes. Nobody questioned my alterations. I also changed the Gender-Female to Sex-Female on my discharge note.
As I was admitted because I had a stroke and I will have follow up appointments. I’m definitely going to make sure that my Sex not Gender is recorded as Female and woe betide them if they try and make me change that. I may have have had a stroke but I’m no pushover. I’ve been gobby and chopsy all of my life, I’m not mellowing in old age, I’m getting more and more entrenched in my GC Radfeminism

My idea of the girl/woman/female gender is that it is what happens to you when you are born female and grow up to be a woman. So, unfortunately IMO I can’t decide “no actually I’m non binary”. I can say that I do not identify with the oppressive categories society forced onto me, but that does not rewrite history and biology and mean it never happened.