Wordpress bans 'deadnaming'

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Your site will be taken down for

"The malicious publication of private details related to gender identity, including former names."

Note in general

"Examples of information which we don’t consider private are:

Photos of people (excluding nudes/minors).
Publicly available physical addresses, email addresses, or phone numbers.
Names."

en.support.wordpress.com/private-information/

Previous policy (as of November 15th) archive.is/fwcA7

So example:

It's ok to disclose that Tommy Robinson was previously called Stephen Yaxley Lennon, because he's not transgender.

But it's not ok to disclose that Caitlyn Jenner was previously called Bruce.

Two wordpress sites have thus far been taken down in the 36 hours since this policy was put into place, namely 'Gender Identity Watch', and 'Gender Trender'.

TransCrimeUK remains up for the moment, but it's quite likely to be taken down in the future.

Clearly there is some scope for deadnaming, if Wordpress decide that it's not 'malicious', whatever the fuck that means, but how far this extends is not clear. For example if you had a page discussing Charlotte (nee Charles) Clymer's unpleasant, if not necessarily illegal behaviour, and how it affects Charlotte's credibility as a 'feminist', it is not clear whether that would be deemed malicious.

It would however be central to any discussion about Charlotte's behaviour.

There is already an example above of one of the leading newspapers of the world famous for investigative journalism that was forced into avoiding stating a fact.

I think that the world's fact checking organisations (e.g., Full Fact in the UK) need to have a very serious discussion about this and related matters at their next set of workshops/conferences.

On the Mail Front Page thread about transgender contaigion in schools, womanformerlyknownaswoman describes cult recruitment and coercive control including:

The basic idea is to distance people from their past, to make their past bad, or evil, or the source of all their problems.

So dear children, change your name, change your sex, take the drugs, have the surgery, don't tell your parents......you belong to us now.

Deadnaming is sinister on a whole bunch of levels.

They can add the Guardian’s

And our journalism should be grounded in the principle that trans women are women

to that as well. These are mainstream media organisations determined to police language. They already moderate the shit out of comments that disagree (when they allow comments). Language is being restricted to prevent the expression of opposition to an ideology. The Wordpress example part of that.

That's a good point Needsmoresleep (and by extension womanformerly). It's like the Khmer Rouge's year zero.

And it makes no sense. How could you say that Caitlyn Jenner won an Olympic medal in men's sport? Surely the records state it was Bruce Jenner. Are they demanding the expunging of historical records as well?

Statement from Gallus Mag on 4thWaveNow (which is desperately trying to back up their content)

4thwavenow.com/2018/11/17/wordpress-dumps-gendertrender-gallus-mag-responds/

Unsurprisingly it’s not about normal everyday trans people who want to go about their lives and don’t want their former name discussed, it’s about a man who wants to force women to wax his scrotum and doesn’t like the fact his name is already in the public domain.

Does it count as malicious even if you are a woman who was the victim of a crime, and you talk about what happened to you?

It would no longer surprise me if it did, Upstart. Sadden, but not surprise. Look at the judge in the case of Maria MacLachlan's assault, instructing her to refer to the accused as "she" and then withholding compensation when Maria didn't/couldn't.

It probably does UpstartCrow. Maria Mac was told to call the odious yob who attacked her 'she' so presumably using the male name would be a no no.

I’m sure all victims would be appropriately ‘re-educated’ about what happened to them.

According to the stonewall definition I fall under the trans umbrella. Because I don’t identify with the gender of “woman”. So I could commit a crime under the name “Istand” and then decide that’s not my name. But I don’t have to tell anyone my chosen new name, right? The police have my legal name “Istand” for their prosecution. It’s in all the criminal proceedings. But that’s not my name anymore so media can’t use it to discuss my crime. That would be deadnaming. But I don’t have to provide the media with a name. So they have no name with which to identify the perpetrator of the crime I committed. They can’t call me a woman (because that’s an identity, not an actual physical thing anymore) and they can’t call me a man either because I don’t identify as either. So what do they say when reporting my crime? Suddenly we have lots of reports of unnamed people committing crimes.

"Does it count as malicious even if you are a woman who was the victim of a crime, and you talk about what happened to you?"

Presumably it will come to that.

The many victims of Stephen Terrence Wood/David Thompson/Karen White presumably won't be allowed to speak about their experience and use the name of the perpetrator. Presumably they won't be able to refer to the sex of the person who raped them either as that is deadsexing.

No doubt Karen White will have a new identity by now.

How do you determine malicious intent?

If you are motivated by maliciousness but I simply say that you said so and so’s birth name was whatever, we both ‘deadname’ that person, yet there was no maliciousness on my part.

it’s about a man who wants to force women to wax his scrotum and doesn’t like the fact his name is already in the public domain

This is actually a misunderstanding of what JY was up to. Last year Canada added gender identity and gender expression to the characteristics protected by federal human-rights law. So JY asked lots of beauticians (whilst presenting as a male, but telling them he was a transwoman) to wax his balls, but ignored the ones who said yes. He really, really didn't want the waxing. He just wanted to sue the beauticians who said "err, no, we can't do that because we have not had the training", complaining to British Columbia’s human-rights tribunal and alleging discrimination-- seeking damages of C$2,500 ($2,000) each. He successfully trapped 16 beauticians. That's a lot of money. So JY was using a trans identity to extort money.

But that would never happen.

If I get in trouble for using "he" a lot here, well he only claims to be a transwoman when asking for ball waxing, or asking ten year olds if she can help insert their tampons. Creep.

*(£2,000)

My mistake. So the Wordpress ban is actually about a man who is allegedly extorting beauticians not being happy that his name is in the public domain.

Wrong again.
A woman who is allegedly extorting beauticians not being happy that her name etc etc...

That's a good point Needsmoresleep (and by extension womanformerly). It's like the Khmer Rouge's year zero.

Exactly, and many cults members have new names - think of many far eastern sects, subsequently outed as money and sex making machines for male psychopaths - they rename their members. It's a great way of distancing someone from their families and their past - to be replaced by the proscribed history and thoughts of the cult leader.

Deadnaming so-called could be a great distancing mechanism for predators who want to disown their criminal history as is wiping all your previous criminal history from the net. It puts the rights of those with criminals histories above the rights of the innocent to carry out due diligence on an individual.

Case here where a male transgender person who identifies as female was given a conditional discharge for the sexual abuse of a 13 year old boy.

Mirror link

The solicitor for Gina (formerly Gareth) Owen said: "She was literally a different person when she committed these offences."

Hey, if you can literally change your sex then your crimes can literally be committed by someone else, right?

Twitter have banned 'deadnaming' as well

help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/hateful-conduct-policy

It's literally murder!

Anyone fancy a game of "spot the missing group in the list of groups protected from hate speech" in Mary's link? (There won't be a prize, I'm afraid, as it won't take you long and the result is all too predictable.)

And our favourite XY publication is straight on it

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/11/23/twitter-misgendering-deadnaming-trans/

The word/s deadnaming - presumably devised by TDAs in that oh so familiar dramatic/nods to death style.

Nobody died. Nobody was re-born despite the gendered souls claptrap.

I plan to use 'formerly known as' I'm not using such a loaded phrase as deadnaming.

I'm married. Do you deadname me when you use my maiden name? That person no longer exists, so maybe I'll sue every organisation that asks for my maiden name. How very dare they.