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Can we talk about Lisa Muggeridge?

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JillyArmeeen · 16/11/2018 20:52

Wtf has happened? She looks scared in this video, really scared, angry and upset.
She's a trained social worker. She knows this stuff. But she's saying this is her last video.
Another voice bullied into silence.
This scares me.
I'm also a single mother, putting my head above the parapet at every opportunity at the moment, but after a couple of horrible altercations online, where I've been called the most awful names,doxxing on Facebook, I wonder if i should be more careful.
If anyone has any details that has brought Lisa to his point, or ways of getting our support to her it would be appreciated.
Lisa, if there is any chance you are reading this, I'm sending love, strength, and immense gratitude your way. Thank you for everything you have done. We are not wrong on this. You know it. We see them.

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R0wantrees · 24/11/2018 07:19

Lisa Muggeridge blog:

'Post script'
"THis record started because I could express a political opinion publicly for the first time in my life. It became, not through my choice, but after taking them at face value, a record of a mediating class in crisis as they generated instability at the end of a cycle. They generated instability by reproducing their class identity and social relations with social media and this is a record of why our elite institutions had no understanding of the rule of law when they tried to undermine it with austerity. I am grateful to have kept that record and it is done. There is no way for the class that the likes of Sophie Emera is from to see the systems I can see and see no need to put myself in the face of that class rage.

I went to see my MP, I said this is the system failure we have, this is the record I have created, this is what it means for Universal Credit, and our Local Authorities. The system failure is real and even though he is a Conservative he took the time to discuss in detail what I had seen and done. Including the reason I know there is no understanding of this at an elite level.

In 2010 it appeared, it felt like, it has felt since like equality was rolled back for women like me. In fact the context had changed around our elite cultures andthe shit i got was because I am that context. I do not have the right or the choice to place my daughter at risk and we won, the reason trans rights activists are so dangerous is we won. What they dont know is that this is the period where women will consolidate EVERY right won in the twentieth century. I don’t need to be on social media for that, to be part of that, and social media particularly twitter is just the remains of a dying media and politics culture screaming to everyone they never did know anything and this was all they had. Its over.

Parasitic dynamic is broken when the parasite behaves abusively. The host just has to walk away. Nothing I need or want on social media, I don’t need a permanent window into how bad our elite cultures were during this period. I already knew. All twitter has done is ensured I could see it and bypass it. Which I have done. So can you. I am physically and emotionally worn out, but there is no need for me to take this kind of hate. A quick ‘we dont know about these systems’ would have done in 2010.

The alignment of our legal frameworks, safeguarding, equality legislation and our institutions is now happening. Its just that media cultures wentto die in a chatroom while it happens. Each age is a dream that is dying or a new one coming to birth. Its time to push. Really."
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womanformallyknownaswoman · 24/11/2018 07:34

In 2010 it appeared, it felt like, it has felt since like equality was rolled back for women like me.

She speaks for so many women and the willful deafness and blindness of those tasked with a duty of care is one of the biggest scandals of our age - whether in politics, education, NFPs, the private sector, media, justice, health & welfare systems etc - whatever the sphere - the disconnect between those women and their children deliberately economically and educationally disadvantaged and put in harms' way and those who should be protecting them is egregious.

R0wantrees · 24/11/2018 07:49

She speaks for so many women and the willful deafness and blindness of those tasked with a duty of care is one of the biggest scandals of our age - whether in politics, education, NFPs, the private sector, media, justice, health & welfare systems etc - whatever the sphere - the disconnect between those women and their children deliberately economically and educationally disadvantaged and put in harms' way and those who should be protecting them is egregious.

current thread, OP TimeLady wrote:
"Penny Mordaunt's women’s suffrage centenary speech

www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2018/11/mordaunt-broadens-out-role-of-government-equalities-office-beyond-women-on-boards-and-big-business-full-text.html

Right at the end:

In Parliament, the Women and Equalities Select Committee engages with a range of organisations to inform parliament and government’s thinking.

And there are some great forums and campaign groups out there.

But I want to make sure we hear from women in every community, so we are undertaking a piece of work to ensure female voices are better heard by policy makers.

Every woman in the UK should feel able to raise the issues which concern them, and know that we are taking them seriously and are responding to those issues. And to find the right solutions to the complex policy challenges we face, we need to be drawing on everyone’s expertise – no one has a better insight into tricky gender equality issues than the women who are dealing with them every day.

Our message to women is this: you will set our agenda."

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3431944-Penny-Mordaunt-Let-s-champion-the-invisible-women-who-keep-our-nation-going

deepwatersolo · 24/11/2018 10:19

The Left has largely abandoned its base, you can see it across Europe, and Lisa has it right imo that it is a class divide between ‚the Left‘ and the base that is to blame for the disconnect.
And I believe it is very harmful, because we are left with a choice between Status Quo Neoliberalism by conservatives and ‚the Left‘ alike (their differences in actual policies often just nuances- just don‘t rock the boat) and right-wing Populism. France, Germany, Italy, Hungaria, UK... a true Left, connected to the base, seems to be virtually absent as a political force. Am I wrong?

(I had high hopes for Corbyn‘s Labour, yeah, yeah, don‘t lynch me. But that seems to have gone the path of Identity politics).

OhHolyJesus · 27/11/2018 12:06

Does anyone know if Lisa still has a crowd finder open? The one I found said she no longer needed £ for her tuition. Would like to donate a tenner - I'm hoping one day she goes into politics so I can vote for her!

hellandhairnets · 27/11/2018 12:31

The Left has largely abandoned its base, you can see it across Europe, and Lisa has it right imo that it is a class divide between ‚the Left‘ and the base that is to blame for the disconnect.

Yes, I don't always agree with her presentation (particular the rantings at other women) but Lisa has always had it spot on about systems and the class issue and her videos have largely been excellent.

She is dead right that class has been and still is an enormous blind spot and is leading to the disintegration of "the Left" as it is presenting currently. It is no bad thing. I too would like a left wing political movement that actually addresses material realities and systemic inequalities rather than continually reinforcing them in a kind of pseudo-version of what its proponents are claiming they stand for. I think there are increasing numbers of us who feel this way.

I only hope that Lisa is correct in her assertion we have already won. Stay safe and keep well and strong, Lisa, I hope goes well for you and your daughter and you return to fight another day. Flowers

Je55ie55 · 03/03/2019 00:10

If you are concerned just keep your head down.These people are willing to risk the welfare of children so just think what they'll do to you.They're nasty and desperate.Let others take the strain,you've done your bit and the whole sick enterprise is beginning to fall apart.Stay safe

woman19 · 26/03/2019 12:44

Saw this article today and thought of what Lisa Muggeridge had alluded to.

Looked for her You tube lectures, and can't find them.

But she was and is on the money.

The Guardian reported last November that experts warned vulnerable children were being “treated like cattle” and moved around care homes in England and Wales, with councils routinely inviting companies to compete for the contracts through an online bidding process

A Guardian investigation discovered evidence of councils putting the personal details of children in online adverts, including information about previous sexual abuse and gang involvement, while inviting bids from private companies for their care

www.theguardian.com/society/2019/mar/26/record-number-of-children-missing-from-care-in-uk

happydappy2 · 26/03/2019 13:05

That Guardian article is awful, is the care system even fit for purpose?

RepealTheGRA · 26/03/2019 13:22

That Guardian article is awful, is the care system even fit for purpose?

No.

This is going to be the biggest scandal ever. I hope it’s the point we finally ‘learn our lessons’ and commit to things not happening again.

Lisa Flowers

SirVixofVixHall · 26/03/2019 13:30

Yes, Flowers to Lisa.

woman19 · 26/03/2019 13:32

Yep. Flowers thanks and solidarity to Lisa Muggeridge. Her work will yet save women and kids' lives.

RedToothBrush · 26/03/2019 14:36

BuzzFeed did a couple of articles on the care system last year which were long reads and utterly horrific. The make that Guardian article look like it's barely touching the surface and playing down the situation.

www.buzzfeed.com/richholmes/care-price
Danger And Despair Inside Cambian Group, Britain's Largest Private Child Care Home Provider
Big rewards for investors and executives, “chaos” and “unhygienic” conditions for children.

It was followed up the following week with this
www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/richholmes/keys-group-aaron-leafe
Private Children’s Homes Repeatedly Failed Aaron Leafe — Until The Day He Died
“If Keys Group had cared for him appropriately, he would still be alive today.”

Cattle are treated better than this.

RedToothBrush · 26/03/2019 14:38

Note the date on the first BuzzFeed article is July last year.

Sadly no one cares about these kids and in political terms, no one can be arsed to argue for them, because it gains them no votes.

R0wantrees · 26/03/2019 14:44

Sadly no one cares about these kids and in political terms, no one can be arsed to argue for them, because it gains them no votes.

They are the most vulnerable.

See thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3324578-Vunerabilities-of-Looked-After-Children-Social-Work-CP-restricted-by-affirmation-requirement-Trans-Youth-in-Care-Toolkit

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