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BBC front page.. Violence against women

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SanFranBear · 15/11/2018 23:20

Just wanted to post a screenshot of the front page of the BBC news site.

I was told that no-one has suffered like trans people who are dying right here, right now when someone on my FB asked why feminists are soooo anti-trans and I tried to explain.

This - this is why! Three stories of entitled male violence and one about Beyonce cutting ties due to alleged male unwanted sexual behaviour.

But women aren't oppressed - we're privileged and have nothing to fear from a removal of safeguarding and safe spaces.

I'm sad tonight.

BBC front page.. Violence against women
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SanFranBear · 15/11/2018 23:22

By the way - as I hope you know, I am not stating that feminists ARE anti-trans.. just we're pro-women..

Shouldn't have to justify that, but just in case...

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stillathing · 16/11/2018 09:11

I noticed the very same thing last night on the BBC. Male violence against women is relentless.

ChattyLion · 16/11/2018 09:17

Agree totally OP
Also noticed the BBC appropriating intersex people into being part of the LGBT umbrella which intersex people have been asking them to do for years. Being born with a medical condition has nowt to do with sex orientation or sex stereotyped personal presentation preferences..

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-46151647

ChattyLion · 16/11/2018 09:21

That post was missing a NOT!
Intersex people don’t want to be put under this ‘LGBTI’ political umbrella by virtue of their being born with a medical condition.
Yet the BBC keep using it because they think it gives them woke points.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 16/11/2018 10:50

But women aren't oppressed - we're privileged and have nothing to fear from a removal of safeguarding and safe spaces

What that actually means is 'because of your 'privilege' you are expected to sacrifice your safeguarding and safe spaces and take the inevitable consequences. You should do this gladly in the name of equality. And quietly. Without talking about it.'

a) don't agree with 'privilege' in this context, at all. That's a very dodgy conclusion to reach, and no, that needs major unpacking and discussing.

b) removal of rights from one group to give to another (and by that, actual rights, like not being injured, sexually assaulted) can never be the answer to any problem.

c) when you start asking any society group to suffer quietly and hide it for political reasons, particularly with the massive, massive misogyny openly involved here, alarm bells should be ringing so loudly that eardrums are bursting.

littlbrowndog · 16/11/2018 11:03

Yeah I was on daily mail site and there was 6 I think stories of women and girls being murdered
Ffs 6

littlbrowndog · 16/11/2018 11:04

Oh murdered by men meant to say

scaredofex · 16/11/2018 11:12

It's very real. I've recently been told by the police that my stbex raping, sexually assaulting and coercively controlling me for many years is not a crime. They said what he did "wasn't nice" but it wasn't enough to meet the criteria for a crime. This was a female detective too. The law is an ass.

littlbrowndog · 16/11/2018 11:16

How can that be scared ? That’s totally fecking shite
Sorry for you 💐 hugs

scaredofex · 16/11/2018 12:11

littlbrowndog I really don't know. The police are supposed to be so hot on DV now but the reality is they don't pursue allegations. If I wasn't as strong as I am and didn't have children to look after I'd be feeling very vulnerable from a self harm point of view. Eating disorder and self harm thoughts kicked in instantly but I've managed to silence them.

QuentinWinters · 16/11/2018 12:25

It's so depressing. I listened to the story the other day about the woman who died after being shot in the abdomen with a crossbow by a man. I couldn't think of anything comparable that I have read about women doing similar to men. It's hard not to see the "Trans women are the most oppressed ever" as a conspiracy to gaslight women.

EverardDigby · 16/11/2018 12:31

Yeah I was thinking the same about The Times, yet all these incidents are hardly ever linked together.

Womantheonlykind · 16/11/2018 22:17

I think the press should use a male violence topic heading and tag every single story that applies. That would really state the bloody obvious wouldn't it?

90% is a big fucking number.

ChattyLion · 17/11/2018 07:16

Scared I am so sorry for all you’ve been through. Flowers That is shocking as a police response.

That is a great idea woman - absolutely it’s high time as a society we (and the media) stopped obscuring and minimising this. Imagine the outrage if the lives if any other group in society was at risk in this way?

ChattyLion · 17/11/2018 07:19

sorry, I know the thread’s moved on but just to add to my post above about BBC (in Scotland) appropriating intersex people into a transgender identity issue. Seems the Scottish Government are at that, which is not an excuse but could be why the BBC are doing it Sad:

In the Fairer Scotland Action Plan (2016), the Scottish Government committed to 'review and reform gender recognition law so it is in line with international best practice for people who are transgender or intersex'.

See P9, of: researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CDP-2018-0254/CDP-2018-0254.pdf

PartridgeInAFairTree · 17/11/2018 07:41

I agree woman, we should call things what they are, same with the female pay gap. These issues seem to be hiding in plain sight, or people don't give enough of a fuck to put the pieces together

PerverseConverse · 17/11/2018 08:22

Thank you for the kind words and flowers Smile

ShineOnHarvestMoon · 17/11/2018 11:59

The thing is, we’re raised/socialised/conditioned to see this Male violence as “normal “. And NAMALT etc etc

Because we most of us have men in our lives whom we love, like, respect. Who are fully human, not half-damaged by masculinity.

So we learn how to block out the true horror of the ways we have to live, and the gendercide around us.

PebbleDashed · 17/11/2018 14:33

The BBC quite frequently has stories on the front page about women being killed, youngsters being raped and killed - it was a 13 yr old last week. And lest we forget, that's just the stories that a) get reported (most don't) and b) grab the headlines (given the dearth of actual journalists nowadays, most don't). It is absolutely jaw-droppingly amazing just how many times it happens actually, I completely agree. And how sick it makes you feel.

QuackPorridgeBacon · 18/11/2018 15:49

I don’t like playing too trumps with things that are bad but ffs I seriously dislike when it’s portrayed that trans women have it so much worse. The reality is that they do not. I think sawful when anyone is killed but we cannot pretend that the majority of those people are women at the hands of men. Men kill the most women and the most men ffs. Not all men are bad but you would be stupid not to acknowledge the statistics. Calling men women skews those statistics and that worries me.

I have to ask though, what does NAMALT mean? I’ve seen it a lot but never picked up what it means. I’m sure once I’m told it will be obvious.

littlbrowndog · 18/11/2018 16:33

Not all men are like that porridge

QuackPorridgeBacon · 19/11/2018 00:54

Ahh. That is glaringly obvious.

Shriek · 19/11/2018 00:56

Husband cuts wife's hands off!!??? Wtaf!!

QuackPorridgeBacon · 20/11/2018 11:47

Shriek I know, right. It’s disgusting and fucked up on so many levels. Bet he still would have expected her to do everything. I genuinely fear losing limbs, to have them taken by someone meant to love you is just awful.

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