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Ruth Coppinger is my kind of MP... TRIGGER WARNING

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Sickoffamilydrama · 14/11/2018 21:19

Not sure if anyone has posted about Ruth Coppinger TD (she's an Irish MP) talking about the Cork rape case in which the defence used the victim's underwear as a mark of consent.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46207304
So pleased she highlighted this in such a clear way and highlighted the rape culture these ideas support.
I've had a friend whose daughter was attacked the jurors apparently tested her daughter's shorts as they didn't believe they could be ripped this was with CCTV evidence of the attack & witnesses came along & pulled him off of her.
Another person close to me was not believed during her rapist's trial as she has a mental health condition so probably hallucinated the whole thing, even though this is not a feature of her condition.

twitter.com/hashtag/ThisIsNotConsent?s=09

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Sickoffamilydrama · 14/11/2018 21:20

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46207304

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Sickoffamilydrama · 14/11/2018 21:21

twitter.com/hashtag/ThisIsNotConsent?s=09

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Laceythesheep · 14/11/2018 21:32

I’m so sorry for these women. When I heard the trial of the footballer where the complainant’s history was dragged up and we were told this was unusual I knew they were lying.
Even a history that is made up can be used against you.

AssassinatedBeauty · 14/11/2018 21:32

I saw this earlier and was pleased to see someone challenging this so publicly. If the cameras did cut away from her that is shocking, but not surprising.

I'd like to see sanctions for any legal representative in a court room that refers to rape myths like this. It's so infuriating - even if she was out looking for sex, none of that means that she consented, or even that it was more likely that she consented.

GardeningAndKnitting · 14/11/2018 21:57

I'm so glad she did that, It needed to be done

Emerencealwayshopeful · 14/11/2018 22:09

My sister was repeatedly told she had hallucinated assaults. While she has many mental health issues hallucinations are not part of those.

When he finally assaulted her in public her GP wrote to the people running the program she was in saying that it was impossible for 4 people to simultaneously have the same hallucination.

Glad someone is pointing out some of the hideousness of this in parliament somewhere in the world.

LassWiADelicateAir · 14/11/2018 22:31

Well done that woman.

Sickoffamilydrama · 14/11/2018 23:13

@Emerencealwayshopeful
How awful for her, I don't think we've even scratched the surface with how bad the system is at dealing with rape & how bad culturally we are at believing victims.
Stupidly enough part of the reason my friend had this mental health condition was due to the rape.

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Sickoffamilydrama · 14/11/2018 23:19

I often think with these kind of things how do we change it?
Or even get people to see it & acknowledge it, I suppose it's very hard for people to realise there's a lot of rapists on the world. That people aren't good/bad but can be both.

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pachyderm · 14/11/2018 23:38

Ruth is 100% right on this one. Unfortunately she spoke at Dublin's Trans Pride a couple of months ago, aggressively attacked the lesbians who protested in the London Pride this year, calling them "so-called feminists" and ranting about the rights of those "non-binary from birth" people that were hurt by the protest. Last week she was fighting to have the term "pregnant women" replaced with "pregnant people" in the abortion legislation being drafted. She's one of the worst when it comes to capitulating to our small but powerful group of TRAs against the interests of women. The cognitive dissonance is amazing.

Sickoffamilydrama · 15/11/2018 13:33

@pachyderm
That's not great is it. So she can come of my list as a great MP then Hmm

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pachyderm · 15/11/2018 13:42

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156594526503343&id=531013342

Makes for depressing listening. Ruth is straight- having a go at lesbians for peacefully protesting the attacks on their community is seriously getting out of her lane.

AssassinatedBeauty · 15/11/2018 14:22

Oh bum. How can she so bang on the money wrt the comments in this rape trial, and so wide of the mark on these other issues?

Sickoffamilydrama · 15/11/2018 14:54

She's bang.on about corporation's jumping on the rainbow wagon....then she does the same and jumps on the trans wagon.

Well I was excited hearing her speak...now I'm just disappointed good job I'm don't live in Ireland otherwise she'd have gained and lost my support in less than 24 hours!

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pachyderm · 15/11/2018 16:01

I know, and that's EXACTLY what Dr Julia Long and the other women were protesting at Pride too- the corporate takeover of a former grassroots event like Pride. It shows she didn't even bother to listen to what they were saying. Instead she listened to TRAs telling her the gospel. This is what's happening here- there is no critical thinking whatsoever.

Annandale · 15/11/2018 16:15

She's allowed to have opinions that differ from e.g. mine on other issues. She's right on this one.

pachyderm · 15/11/2018 16:29

I agree. But it's not just "having opinions" - she is actively campaigning and trying to amend legislation that will harm women.

pachyderm · 15/11/2018 16:29

in a way that will harm women

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