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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Children In Need and Mermaids

86 replies

PerverseConverse · 11/11/2018 18:19

Can anyone tell me more about CIN and Mermaids please? As in do CIN give money to them? I'm sure I've read somewhere that they do in which case I do not want to support CIN and will give to individual children's charities that aren't involved in the trans agenda instead.

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merrymouse · 11/11/2018 20:25

Not just Mermaids. Also Allsorts who advise schools that 100m running races for teenagers shouldn’t be single sex.

To be fair I don’t have a problem with mixed sex fun runs/egg and spoon races, but they are clearly ideologically opposed to the whole idea of single sex sport.

This isn’t the first time CiN have given to questionable charities. They gave to Kids Company at a time when questions were already being asked about their financial management.

I think you are better off giving directly to the charity if your choice.

PerverseConverse · 11/11/2018 20:32

If either of my children's school are doing anything then I'll be taking a stand and clearly stating why.
The event at my eldest's is next week for anti bullying but they've not said which charity.

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JenFromTheGlen · 11/11/2018 20:58

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merrymouse · 11/11/2018 21:01

I don’t think I can stop supporting children in need because of all the other good causes they fund.

Nothing to stop you funding any charity directly.

Badstyley · 11/11/2018 21:02

I had an email from DS’s school on Friday saying they were having a special assembly where The Charities Council will be coming in and talking to hem about some of the causes CIN support. I’ve emailed the school asking for any information they have about which charities will be presented. I will chase it up tomorrow afternoon if I’ve not heard. If one of them is Mermaids I’ll do a bit of information gathering and email across my concerns. As for donations, there is a non-uniform day which costs £1, which I might pay or I might send him in anyway and tell them I’m donating elsewhere. They won’t be getting an extra penny though if I do pay it.

merrymouse · 11/11/2018 21:07

The Charities Council will be coming in and talking to them about some of the causes CIN support.

Great way to find another charity to support.

All charities have to submit annual accounts to the charities commission and they list grant making organisations. It’s all available in line.

Geraniumpink · 11/11/2018 21:21

In the last few weeks in the school I work in we’ve had Macmillan, Christmas boxes, dress as a hero, panto deposit, poppies and Children in Need on Friday.
I keep a green jumper, a red jumper a spotty shirt and a pair of Christmas earrings to use every year....

Iused2BanOptimist · 11/11/2018 21:26

The ubiquitous peer pressure on schools and children to fund raise for all those tv charities, children in need, Red Nose Day, sport relief, comic relief etc is sickening. I never give a penny to any of them. Or watch the programmes. Though in years past the children will have donated £1s for non uniform days. Though DD has been known to wear uniform anyway because she couldn't be arsed to think what to wear. I'm just not happy with emotional blackmail guilt tripping the nation. Nor am I satisfied with their use of the funds, storing up substantial surplus investments etc.

InflagranteDelicto · 11/11/2018 21:27

Dd2s school are doing several CIN events. One is where the kids themselves create a fundraising fair. One is a mufti day.

I can't do anything about the fair, and tbh, I think she'll get loads from it. The mufti she'll be taking in an envelope with a letter explaining that I'm sure the school won't exclude her from an event where her mother has moral objections about the charities supported by the cause, and that if they do have any issues, they need to take it up with me, not her.

merrymouse · 11/11/2018 21:42

It's often possible to make a donation using gift aid via a charity web site which means that if you are a tax payer the value of your donation is increased by 25p for every £1 you donate.

Coyoacan · 11/11/2018 22:23

Just read BBC's -excuse- reason for not funding The Glasgow Rape Crisis Centre, which is basically that there is not enough money to go round. Well if they stopped funding the mutilation of children, that would be a saving there.

FekkoThePenguin · 11/11/2018 22:26

So a rape centre isn't as important as the 'flavour of the month'?

Well the BBC hasn't exactly a good track record when it comes to child protection or women's safety has it? They need to look again.

FekkoThePenguin · 11/11/2018 22:31

Where is the full list of grants published?

FekkoThePenguin · 11/11/2018 22:35

If anyone has some time on their hands...
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/2mRFsclbG1GkGK5LBynJP47/contact-us

hipsterfun · 11/11/2018 22:38

will give to individual children's charities that aren't involved in the trans agenda instead.

At least one of the big ones seems to have been made fully compliant by the lobbying orgs. Pick wisely.

OrchidInTheSun · 11/11/2018 22:39

CiN gave £75k to Allsorts last year - the charity which tells girls that if they are uncomfortable with sharing a changing room with a male bodied child, they should be educated and moved out of the changing room.

They also gave £125k to Mermaids

FekkoThePenguin · 11/11/2018 22:46

How much again to the rape centre?

Can anyone remind me again of how much money they gave to women and girls who have been through real trauma, as opposed to adults with an agem a of trying to persuade kids and their parents that a boy who likes pink must in reality be an actual girl and need 'intervention'? And not just a boy who likes pink - or heaven forbid, a gay boy?

OrchidInTheSun · 11/11/2018 22:52

I've just checked the ReSisters stats. They're bang on.

1/3 - £500,000 - of cash that CiN gives to support LGBT youth goes exclusively to supporting trans youth. One third

OrchidInTheSun · 11/11/2018 23:06

By contrast, they spend £1.7m on projects specifically to support girls (these are last year's numbers so Glasgow Rape Crisis is still included in that).

So they spend the same amount on supporting LGBT youth as they do on girls. Girls who are half the population, no matter what their sexual orientation or gender presentation.

Girls who we know are excluded, raped, sexually assaulted, trafficked and left caring for babies and children with little or no support.

Coyoacan · 12/11/2018 02:47

The grant to the Glasgow Rape Crisis that was cancelled was £35,000.

HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 12/11/2018 02:55

What is Mermaids please? (I’m not in the UK)

MingoMingo · 12/11/2018 03:03

Can someone explain to me what the issue is with this charity please?

Graphista · 12/11/2018 03:29

"Hmm. I’m pretty uncomfortable with some of the material from a couple of these groups, but the BBC spreadsheet has demonstrated just how many grants there are, and these are a drop in the ocean. I’m not sure if I want to throw the baby out with the bathwater here - I don’t think I can stop supporting children in need because of all the other good causes they fund. It’s not clear-cut though." Nothing stopping you from directly donating to the charities you do want to support.

Cin also one of the worst "charities" for high "admin costs"

Re that pathetic excuse for stopping the grant to glasgow rape centre - 2 words "aye right!"

I haven't donated to them for years, for these and other reasons. I donate when I can afford to charities of my own choosing - I particularly like a small local one that provides a holiday home for families with a child/ren with life limiting conditions. Low admin costs, excellent genuine volunteers.

I live in a very deprived area (high unemployment, homelessness & food bank use) - the peer pressure is ridiculous and the costs for non-uniform days etc is imo too high for the area. I've friends from a far more affluent area and the schools there have lower suggested donation amounts. I think the problem is most of the teachers aren't locals but are from a nearby VERY affluent area. I know of several families that have called their kids in sick on non uniform days because they can't afford to give the donation and children would be too embarrassed to go in uniform - plus it would likely lead to the children being bullied.

BlytheSpiritsSpirit · 12/11/2018 06:26

What is Mermaids?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3420335-can-someone-explain-the-problem-with-mermaids-charity

Batteriesallgone · 12/11/2018 10:55

Wow I had no idea. Thanks for the info OP.

Mermaids really are insidious aren’t they.

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