Lesbian who has detransitioned explains the grooming process she endured

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And how the endless tumblr & YouTube affirmations from trans men on why her experience of homophobia and confusion about being a lesbian led her down the trans path.

Really insightful thread

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1060968231945584640.html

This spells out why hours on the Internet by children who suddenly come out as trans is an important factor in this issue.

Very interesting, thank you!

Like that OP, think it's ironic how TRAs are all about acceptance when actually in many cases it appears that it is 'our way or the high way'.

It will be interesting to monitor the number of cases where people de-transition in coming years, whether there have the surgery or not.

I was just playing with the idea that maybe I’m actually a lesbian and not into men at all

My gender non-conformance started to be understood as “transmasculinity

I actually was a new gender entirely because Skylar Kergil on YouTube said dressing that way & liking girls made him realize he was a transman

But how could it have come from nowhere when Chase Ross on YouTube said trans people have always known they were trans, just didn’t have the words?

Gigi Gorgeous taught me that knowing I was always “different” was a good indicator I was trans.

It's all so insidious. You can really understand why a teenager struggling with puberty / sexuality / being a teenager could so easily be sucked in by this shit.

Don't all teenagers think they're "different"?

It's all so insidious. You can really understand why a teenager struggling with puberty / sexuality / being a teenager could so easily be sucked in by this shit.

That was the same thought I had reading this - the affirmation only response for anyone, particularly teenagers, doesn't consider the fact no one is pondering their identity in a bubble, unaffected by outside influence. Especially when that influence is full of bullshitters & liars & people making money from giving disingenuous testimony of their "trans journeys". Those "influencers" who advocate for pathways they themselves don't go down are the absolute worst IMO.

that was really interesting, thanks for posting

thank god she came to her senses after a year, hopefully with minimal damage to her body

I'd like to know what TRAs think of this. Maybe the pair who were around last night would like to comment?

They will no doubt say she was never really trans. I have heard on Twitter than detransitioners can be subjected to some nasty abuse from the TRAs - I guess they can't handle people escaping the cult.

The young lady who wrote the thread above has written several insightful threads recently, and more detransitioners seem to be emerging and are willing to speak out. It's very positive as it demonstrates that gender confusion can be temporary and transitioning often does not help the situation.

Thanks for posting though it makes me wonder how many other girls are just like this one? I know I would have been if I grew up now!

Yes.

I really do believe that media - tv, film, YouTube mainly - is behind a lot of the confusion for many young people.

I've just found out that a child had transitioned from f to m in my child's school, name changed. Must have been in year 3 as they're now in y4. I know from a brief chat with the head that they school tries to tackle gender stereotypes. I know from a brief chat with a parent who told me that the parents went through 'it all' and the child is happier as a boy.

My first though was - how did the child know it's possible to do this? Because in many ways it's easier to be gender non conforming as a girl. My second thought was CBBC and YouTube.

If they're happy, in reality, what's in a name and clothes. Who cares. I just really hope the sex based protections are in place. The school's EA policy clearly defined sex v gender. The next school doesn't however I noticed, using gender only (first, middle school system, so next year.)

The thing is I'm starting to feel like there are more 'stories' about being trans than there are about just being gender non conforming in books and tv for kids.

Neuro You asked how it's possible for a child to know they can do this.

Yesterday I read that Jazz Jennings reckons that when they were 2 years old, they said to their mother 'When will the good fairy change my penis into a vagina?'

I don't know about being famous for being trans - Jazz should be up there with the child geniuses for that level of language and intellectual understanding at TWO...

Vicky As a linguist, I agree that we can be confident that no child of 2 could produce a complex question like that, even if they knew how to say all of those individual words...

I concur.

Here's another thread rom twitter about another teenage girl who fell into the online trans vortex and became very obsessed very quickly.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1061376706768969728.html

Skylar Kergil gets another mention.

Just been having a think about famous five and George.

I idolised her, she was ace. I was quite girly though but I loved her ability to reject gender.

From that thread:

"Skylar said he knew he was a boy when he had a crush on a girl and felt gross imagining being with her as two girls."

Note the inherent homophobia again.

(As a back ground influence)