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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is it time to admit that no one else separates sex & gender?

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CrazyToast · 09/11/2018 18:26

Everywhere I see sex and gender conflated, on surveys, official forms, in day to day use. GC feminists and some academics seem to be the only ones who separate them. Is it time to admit the words have different uses than how we use them? And if this is the case, how should we move forward?

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hangry · 09/11/2018 23:34

there's a odd TRA on twitter getting very over excited telling people that sex = male/female and gender also means male/female. and something something something 1600 scientists agree.

so if gender is the same as sex and sex is unchangeable, cos, you know, it's sex, then gender can't be changed either? or be different from your sex?

i'm not sure they realise they've just 'erased' trans people.

it could be that they mean that as oh intersex something something something, that means that no one can actually tell what your sex is by looking, so your sex, and by extension your gender (which is the same thing), is whatever the hell you feel like it might be?

dunno.

they are quite funny tho, lots of 'oh my god i can't believe you think gender is different to sex!!!!'

it's a new one on me.

AspieAndProud · 09/11/2018 23:55

No one gets the difference between weight and mass right, but if Scientists stopped caring the world would grind to a halt.

‘Heat’ and ‘temperature’ too.

Weight is measured in Newtons, not kilograms or pounds and ounces but I’ve never seen ‘Newtons’ on bathroom scales. Heat is measured in Joules, not centigrade, Fahrenheit or Kelvin.

Nevertheless, we understand what someone means when they say they put on a few pounds. We don’t think that because they are technically wrong they are weightless.

FWRLurker · 10/11/2018 03:35

I just got done teaching my class the definition of sex this week (2 kinds of gametes fusing for the verb / the type of your species that produces producing a particular kind of gamete for the noun.

To be honest I think many of my students hadn’t really thought of self that way before so OP may have a point. Plus every damn survey lately has had either “how do you identify; male/female/other” or “gender: male/female”.

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