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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What is "ideology" and what rights to parents have? and what is "sex education"?

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worstofbothworlds · 08/11/2018 10:08

This is a bit more general but follows on from my other thread about a boy in my DC's class whose mum says he is now a girl.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3414798-Mum-says-child-in-my-DCs-class-has-transitioned

I enquired what material was used around this explanation to the class and was told - roughly - what video was used and have shown my DC a snippet and they confirmed that it probably was that video.
HT is telling me that "this is not sex education so you don't have the right to withdraw your DC" and "this child has always been a girl". Both the HT's explanation and the video that my DC thinks they saw are very stereotyped (you know you're a girl because you like dollies/dresses/pink/mermaids/long hair and cars are boys toys).

Now, obviously, there will be many here who agree with me that this is a political ideology AND relevant to sex education.

I will be checking that the sex education syllabus to be delivered over the course of this school year - and Y3 will be puberty - will be anatomically correct and will refer to the correct sexes i.e. they will not be telling children that some girls have penises or some boys have periods. As this is National Curriculum stuff too I guess I could report them to Ofsted if they are teaching something in science that isn't science?

But there is also the issue of ideology - some people DO believe that a boy with a boy's biology can be, actually, a girl all along. What are my rights and what are a school's obligations to teach a balanced version of a political belief system?
And we also believe that gender stereotypes are imposed by society and not a feature of individuals. Again, what are my rights on my child being taught the opposite under ideology/what are the school's obligations to teach a balanced view?

OP posts:
GatheringHerBrows · 09/11/2018 16:24

Yes @arranfan, I think the Transgender Trend guidance suggested that parents shouldn't have the right to withdraw their child, but I said that they should, partly because I don't trust the government / school to get this right 😬.

arranfan · 09/11/2018 16:55

I said that they should, partly because I don't trust the government / school to get this right

We must have used pretty much the same caveat wherever necessary!

GatheringHerBrows · 09/11/2018 17:59

Does anyone have a link to some information about the current situation re sex and relationships education? I'm going to email my DC's school, but I'd like an understanding of the current situation before I do.

MrGHardy · 09/11/2018 21:18

"It’s chilling to think that children are being indoctrinated with such a damaging ideology."

Indeed. Terrible situation for OP. "Always a girl". Really? Really?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 10/11/2018 10:21

The HT said "X is a girl who [and here the red mist was descending so I wasn't listening properly] just happens to have a boy's body/was born in a boy's body/was born as a boy" or similar guff

The host becomes the actual body and blood.

We've always been at war with Eastasia.

FishCanFly · 10/11/2018 11:10

Thus if you believe that gender reassignment is nonsense, and the belief is grounded in nonreligious intellectual system like science or radical feminism, your belief is not protected.

I wonder if quoting the Bible would come in handy - that people were created male and female?

newtlover · 10/11/2018 14:07

so true Spartacus

Materialist · 10/11/2018 14:12

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