AIBU to think that life was easier before I realised the emperor was naked?

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Ok I know this isn’t AIBU does anyone else sometimes wish that they hadn’t had their eyes opened to how insane the whole trans ideology is? It was so much easier when I could just nod along with the media coverage and feel sorry for the poor people trapped in the wrong bodies. I felt compassionate and ‘liberal’, both qualities I really value.

Since realising how utterly bananas the whole premise is and the damage it does to women and children I’m genuinely stressed out by it all. I’m gobsmacked by the science denying and furious with the silencing. I’m also really scared for the future of trans children subjected to irreversible medicalised interventions. And the venom aimed at gender critical people is relentless. It’s made easier by being absolutely sure that this is the “right side of history” but yeah, life was easier before, and I kind of blame you lovely lot

Take strength
Not one person I know believes in this total shite
Just politicians and the cowards and th3 what do u call them ppl who virtue signal

Answered myself virtue signallers

Not one single person

Fuck yes. I hear you.

It's so bloody, mindnumbingly tedious

I have noticed that patient debate and argument is increasingly becoming 'oh for fucks sake don't be so silly'. I really relate to that.

But yes, without this I don't think my responsibilities towards women and equality for women ever would have even started to dawn on me. I was happily bumbling along until all this happened.

And ffs, (sorry) was in a public place on the patch of Woke Yorkshire Police today and saw an awareness and safeguarding poster on breast ironing happening to girls. Specifying girls. The thought of men raging and stamping about this and how it personally negatively messes with their whopping great out of control tender egos when this is the lot of children with female biology makes me come over somewhat Bodiceaish.

I don’t know. My friends were part of the woke queer crowd. I was blythely spouting the twaw mantra until a lesbian on another message board raised the subject of self ID. I might still have been sitting on the fence if it wasn’t for the way a few other posters laid into me for asking questions. I had peaktransed before I ever hit Mumsnet.I’m glad I’m no longer part of the problem. I’ve lost most of my friends but if they can’t cope with disagreement then they can do one. I can meet other friends. I’d rather try to prevent the train wreck than be innocently stood in the way of it.

I’ve wished the same OP. Sometimes I feel optimistic - I really feel in the U.K., women are gaining ground. Then I read US opinions on Twitter and I want to scream. How can so many people be so credulous?

It was easier, but in some ways its more fun now. I can very quietly make people aware of things and secretly wear provocative clothing (i dressed up as part of the dictionary for halloween). It makes life more interesting having something to fight for than just having to fight to keep existing.

I doubt that many people go from GC to TRA supporting. Perhaps a few GC people get to know a trans person closely, or have some other personal experience that gives them some sort of insight into the issues that trans people face. But I can't see how someone could go from understanding how gender sterotypes are damaging to us all, to supporting those stereotypes being upheld

I agree, I'd love to go back to sleep because this utter utter nonsense world that we live in at the moment gives me the radge but alas that's not possible.

However I've learned so much from digging down into this issue, about politics, law, other countries and their laws/culture, history, philosophy, PoMo/Queer theory, biology (so ignorant of it previously that I thought you could change sex, and I do in fact have a tertiary education...)

I've met up with some fabulous like-minded women (and discovered MN FWR and Zoflora) so there is much good as a side effect of this shitemare!

It’s just Twitter.
Don’t read it. Idiots are on there looking for audience and attention
Who cares what they think or what they write
Whish I could say same for our politicians cos they so afraid of the trans activists they are paralysed by fear the stupid arses

Mind you I got humph tonight so I might be totally rajing all over
Jenni Murray thing really pissing me off.

Yup, more silencing to add to my fury! Unspeakable little idiots

Absolutely. I feel like it's changed me, actually, and that has had some positive effects and some negative. I'm angrier and less trusting, and I've also had a couple of upsetting arguments with my daughter. On the upside I feel like I've woken up and my critical thinking skills and have been re-sharpened. In the past I've been an appeaser and a people pleaser, and I've become aware of that as female socialisation and have and been able to think 'fuck that'.

My husband is a few months behind me with it all. He's just got to the non-sleeping stage, and I know he'd like to go back to not knowing about it.

God yes. I went away for a week and de-toxed.

But seeing a Susie Green tweet about not needing psychological assessment before surgery raised my piss to boiling level. Then there was the anti-feminist piece by The Pool. I’m still steering clear of Twitter, but, fuck me, the world has gone mad.

That Susie Green tweet is what really got to me this week. It makes me want to weep for those poor children. All to validate the choices of adults. And then she bloody well brought infertility into it and my brain exploded.

If anything discredits Mermaids, that one single tweet does. It should make any organisation question and remove any reference to them as a ‘go to’ authority. It’s absolutely shameful.

I feel the same.
There's constantly letters to write, emails to send, schos to persuade.... exhausting as I'm only a few months in!

I think Twitter is an issue for me. I'm not sleeping. I look at it before bed then it's on my mind. May delete my account for my sanity.

Schools to persuade! It brings me down that I'm now 'at battle' with a school I've volunteered for and now they think I'm a T*RF!

But I can't see how someone could go from understanding how gender sterotypes are damaging to us all, to supporting those stereotypes being upheld

@olennaswimple - I totally agree with this and the think the amazing thing about the people on the ‘woke’ side is that they actually think the TRA side are the ones breaking down the gender stereotypes.

If it wasn’t so exhausting and worrying it’s actually really interesting to see how so many of us that would identify (ha) as liberal are, through this issue, feeling so much discomfort and self examination as it’s showing just how far we’ve been socialised to allow men to do whatever they want, even to the point that they can now call themselves women, to complete the oppression. You couldn’t make this shit up! I do wish I had the skills to create a documentary about these few years as it’s incredible in its awfulness!

Yes. I'm active in my trade union and it's becoming impossible. In my local branch, two of the other officers who have in the past been my closest allies on all sorts of issues are right up there with the woke brigade. At national level the union has a position of supporting all the proposed changes to the GRA and Trans 101 training is being delivered all over the place. It's really hard to find out who else in the union is GC or even mildly open to talking because the climate is one in which any debate is shut down on the grounds that it harms trans members. For years I've relied on my union as the place of support in a work environment that can be rather tough, so it's horrible to suddenly have that disappear.

I totally agree with you! Like others have said, I can't unsee it now. And it's not just the trans issue either, it's all issues wrt how women are treated. I see sexism bloody everywhere and it makes me so mad!

yep! agree with you op.

I totally agree that being awake to the madness of TRA ideology is tough, I see the madness of it everywhere its like I’ve woken up in Giliad, but I do also believe the tide is turning and in no small way due to the work of you lot.
I am also comforted to know I am not the only one to have uninstalled Twitter from my phone, as i was becoming angry and depressed with the extent of the misogyny and the drooling idiocy of the lefts ( i used to be a Labour party member) newspeak: cis (fuck off) degendering (you’re a fucking bloke with a cock and balls you continue to threaten women with). Etc.
I now find myself reading the flaming Spectator and the Times and nodding in agreement. Before I wouldn’t have felt comfortable being seen to read either of those newspapers.
I think it just goes to show what happens when we stay, for too long and unthinkingly, in our tribal/political bubbles. I’ve found a new tribe in you lot, , and now have renewed focus to critically engage with everything.

It’s really highlighted the misogynistic attitudes towards feminists and women. Particularly women of a certain age.

I’ve discovered I’m actually for women’s liberation, not equality. Liberation from life under the patriarchy - not seeking equality within its systems.

Very 1970’s of me.

It’s really highlighted the misogynistic attitudes towards feminists and women. Particularly women of a certain age.

see current thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3417706-JSOostys-Medium-piece-collating-responses-about-that-doctor

Oh yes, for sure...everything seemed much more simple back when I thought 'trans' meant post op transsexuals, before I discovered TRAs and when I didn't really realise male violence cam into it at all.

It does mean I stand a chance or protecting my childlen from it - getting them to think critically for their selves.

As pp said it's everywhere - I read a lot of YA books and it crops up there out of the blue just like previous BSM started cropping up in very unlikely books.

It's also opening my eyes to things that pervious perhaps I just learnt to accept.