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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

This might raise a smile....

26 replies

NeedChoos · 07/11/2018 19:15

Sorry about the DM linky but I'd like to identify as younger too.

Being old fucking suck!!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6363439/amp/Pensioner-69-identifies-45-year-old-tries-change-age.html?twitterr_impression=true

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Spasm0dic · 08/11/2018 03:54

The judge asked him to think about his parents. Who did they raise if not him? Why is this not asked of people who want to erase their histories by changing their sex on their birth certificates?

olderthanyouthink · 08/11/2018 04:17

Ooooh that will bee fun, just imagine the chronology of life

When did you go to university?

1968

A year before you were born?

Yes

ElfrideSwancourt · 08/11/2018 04:48

This story is now on the BBC news app - yet another'it wouldn't happen' happening.

ChattyLion · 08/11/2018 06:24

Oh yes this would never happen.
He wants to be publicly known as 20 years younger than is age. He explicitly compares it to being trans.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46133262

what could possibly go wrong?

LaPufalina · 08/11/2018 06:37

Haha my DH just sent me the bbc link.
Wonder if all the women affected by the state pension age change could say they're a few years older 🤷🏼‍♀️ will see if my DM fancies being a test case!

ohamIreally · 08/11/2018 07:03

As soon as I saw this I knew it would be a bloke and I knew it would be about his entitlement to sex

ChattyLion · 08/11/2018 08:54

oham nailed it

IsabelleSE19 · 08/11/2018 11:04

I think he's trying to make a point about transgender rather than seriously saying he wants to change age?

JuliaJaynes9 · 08/11/2018 11:36

Nice one 😂 👍
(yes it's allegorical)

deydododatdodontdeydo · 08/11/2018 11:42

I read the article as if he was making a point about the stupidity of self identification, not actually wanting entitlement to women.

TetherEnding · 08/11/2018 11:44

Haha I came on to post the guardian link:

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/08/dutch-man-69-starts-legal-fight-to-identify-as-20-years-younger

JuliaJaynes9 · 08/11/2018 11:53

When I’m 69, I am limited. If I’m 49, then I can buy a new house, drive a different car,” he said. “I can take up more work. When I’m on Tinder and it says I’m 69, I don’t get an answer. When I’m 49, with the face I have, I will be in a luxurious position

He Is obliquely pointing at what men do when they transition to female, they do it because it puts them in a luxurious position

JuliaJaynes9 · 08/11/2018 11:56

They get to keep the essence of masculinity (penis and testicles, or even if that goes they are essentially men because they were born as men) but at the same time they can gather whatever perks are available for women, and they can also get one over on women by beating them in racers etc
it's a win win win and they get all the sympathy because they're so brave

they are attacking the essence of women (by trying to redefine the category of women) whilst at the same time holding onto the essence of masculinity

NeedChoos · 08/11/2018 17:03

I thinks it’s awesome..the more these are in the news the more self ID is shown to be ludicrous....

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ohamIreally · 08/11/2018 17:40

I read it that he's lost his male privilege now he's old and wishes to be back in that "luxurious" position.

JuliaJaynes9 · 08/11/2018 17:42

to me it seems self evidently a parody, if others don't recognise it as such then will his message be lost?

InionEile · 08/11/2018 18:34

I laughed when I read this - and then I stopped to think for a minute and couldn't really find any rational reason to deny his claim in a world where we are supposed to believe that 'transwomen are women'.

TRAs say that biology is meaningless, a person might have XY chromosomes and a penis and testicles and male hormone levels but if they wish to identify as female we need to respect and accept that, regardless. I wish some TRA could explain to me what the difference is between that and this man wanting to identify as being 20 years younger.

'But he was born in a specific year' - yes, but he feels 20 years younger.

'He is chronologically a specific age' - what is age? Do any of us really know how truly old we are?

'The telomeres in his cells denote age and his bones will also show his age as well as his teeth' - some people have younger telomeres than their calendar age would suggest. Some people look younger than they really are. Can we trust telomeres? If he can get work done to his teeth and plastic surgery on his face, then who's to say that he is not in fact 49 years old?

'We all have birth dates on our passports and ID cards, we can't just change that willy-nilly' - people have been changing their age for millennia. It's always been there as part of human culture, it just hasn't been officially accepted before. Generations ago our concept of age was much more fluid anyway, some people didn't even know their formal birth date. We need to move on from this teleological cis-age narrative and accept that we are only as old as we feel.

The satire writes itself...

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 08/11/2018 18:42

He might pass as 49 but biology says not. How inconvenient.

Good spot.

HandsOffMyRights · 08/11/2018 18:46

Julia yes to everything you said!

DH sent me this too. He automatically knew it'd be of interest...

JuliaJaynes9 · 08/11/2018 18:46

we can't just change that willy-nilly

transgender men want to nullify the willy
they want to 'nilly' the willy
you cant nilly the willy willy-nilly

(I'll get my coatBlush)

JuliaJaynes9 · 08/11/2018 18:47

(I think I mean transgender women not transgender men)

FloraFox · 08/11/2018 18:49

He’s deluded if he thinks he passes as 49. Why do men become so disconnected between their view of themselves and how they actually look?

HomeStar · 08/11/2018 19:12

He’s deluded if he thinks he passes as 49

To be fair to this guy, the delusional self-image might be part of the parody. It's making me laugh anyway.

WipeYourFeet · 08/11/2018 19:16

My DH sent the BBC link to me earlier today too. I have him well trained. He said I'd love the guy's reasoning.

WipeYourFeet · 08/11/2018 19:19

And "bualadh bos" @InionEile

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