Hilarious article

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If you can spare the time between changing 'diapers' and giving each other advice about kittens and knitting changing facilities, get a load of this article about why British feminists are mean and horrid. I am so embarrassed for the girl who wrote this. She's spoiling for a scrap with t**fs on Twitter, but I fear she'll only get snorts of derision.
https://theoutline.com/post/6536/british-feminists-media-transphobic?zd=2&zi=5keu4ifu

Saskia
Its an important article.

By chance I read it earlier this morning.

Honestly, I thought it was going to be lots of stuff about prams

yes, love. You thought that because deeply ingrained misogyny has conditioned you to see groups of mothers as vapid consumers whose own identities, thoughts, dreams, lives and feminist analysis have disappeared under a suffocating cloud of motherhood smelling vaguely of Sudocrem.

I would love to see how the author’s views on the world change in the next twenty five years as she ages, sets up home, attempts to progress in her career and maybe has children.

I wonder if I was like that in my twenties? I don’t think I was, although I was far more towards the liberal side of things. Then life happened

Exactly the same as bowls I was much more liberal in my 20's, sex work was a free informed choice, women could work and raise dc without too much comprising, sexism was largely a thing of the past. Then life hit me and my friends. In my forties I am much more cynical and I think radical.

I thought she already had a child? Might have got that wrong though as I can't remember where I read it

The conflation of Mumsnetters with 'people who just want to talk about prams' is simultaneously annoying and hilarious to me.

I don't have children - but came here on advice from someone who told me I'd get the best-informed discussion of feminist issues here. I'm often in awe on FWR of the large number of women who are incredibly well-read, knowledgeable and intellectually sharp.

I'm also astonished daily at how we manage to keep our tempers under constant provocation and accusations (which are such transparent projection you'd think psychology depts would be sending their students here to look at them) of all sorts of things - which I never see happening.

Indeed Vicky. The FWR chat boards through this whole trans/GC thing has brought a calm and dignity into my life (in the face of let's face it, a shit tonne of provocation) that I never knew was possible.

With knowledge comes power. And there is so much knowledge and power here.

I thought she already had a child? Might have got that wrong though as I can't remember where I read it

I think she posted that she was going to spend time with a (friend's) baby and a bottle of red wine the evening the article was posted so wouldn't be availble to reply to tweets.

She does though sell baby clothes:
iNews April 2018
'There is now a brand making ‘Eat The Rich’ bibs for Corbynite babies'
(extract)

"Can’t find anything for your socialist baby to wear? There’s now a company providing tiny t-shirts and bibs with slogans pulled from Corbynite campaigns – and Marxist rallying cries.

Lil Comrade was started by Edie Miller, 26, last year after supporters gave her the money to get to work in a GoFundMe campaign. Miller, originally from Darlington but now living in Birmingham, screen prints clothes by hand with slogans such as “Eat The Rich” and “Class Snuggle”.

“The original idea came from me and my partner in the pub talking about stupid things to dress our own kids in – we’re hoping to have children in the next few years,” she told i.

She did what many Corbynites of her generation do regularly and tweeted about it – only to discover that plenty of people said they’d probably buy something if she ever really made it." (continues)

inews.co.uk/light-relief/offbeat/lil-comrade-the-brand-making-eat-the-rich-bibs-for-corbynite-babies/

NO WORDS

continues....
“The best seller at the moment is probably the Eat the Rich bib. People tack it on to other orders, so they’ll order a Class Snuggle t-shirt and an Eat The Rich bib, or a Gammon is a Slur t-shirt and an Eat the Rich bib.”

Isn’t that quite confrontational for a baby?

“I think people just think it’s funny and cute,” she says. “Nobody’s really been angry at me so far – apart from Lib Dems, and they’re angry at me anyway.” Miller had just finished her master’s in art history and was struggling to find a job in the arts – “it was getting me down” – when the idea for Lil Comrade came to her."

Ereshkigal Do you want or ?

Both! 😁

How did she manage to get Lib Dems angry? I thought they were constitutionally incapable of it.

continues...
“I’m enabling people to wear shitposting,” she says, struggling to find a better term for the swell of in-jokes and cant among the online Corbynite left. “I get to do jokes I find funny, and people like to buy them.”

That’s not the highlight for a woman whose shop website describes her passions as “babies, making things and socialism”, however. “For me, the best part is when people send pictures of their babies wearing a Comrade Cuddles t-shirt. Aaah!”

Oh my God that is just cringe. I'm a diehard leftist but I would never put my child in a political slogan unless they were aware of it and consented.
Commodifying Marxism is just so ugh. Does she buy ready made bibs manufactured in Bangladesh?

Commodifying Marxism - indeed. The depth of thought behind so many of this 'cool girl' TRA types is about at that level. They don't think beyond slogans and catchphrases and memes.

'Transwomen are women' and that's it. No need to argue. No need to think. No need to wonder about the safety of women. Just accept the doctrine, unquestioningly, collect your cool girl credentials and make sure you keep up the anti-TERF memes on Twitter.

It's all about virtue-signaling. There is nothing deeper going on.

I would never put my child in a political slogan unless they were aware of it and consented

yes

it seems akin to baptism to me. you're making assumptions about what your children will believe when they have the capacity

plus i'm a skinflint and the idea of spunking £6.50 on a bib makes me need a sit down

Hot on the heels of this silly article, here's another:

https://intersectional.home.blog/2018/11/10/the-mumsnet-tirade/amp/?twitterr_impression=true

It's quite a feat to pearl clutch so spectacularly yourself about other people's pearl clutching.

I'm always fascinated reading that sort of stuff to see that the screenshots they think are a Gotcha! always appear very sensible and reasoned to me. With luck they'll have that effect on others too and they'll end up here.

Indeed. In their echo chamber they've created by blocking anyone who even mildly disagrees they have no clue what most people think.

In any power structure, it is not the oppressors who get to decide what is or isn’t threatening or abusive. Only the oppressed can do that. Cis people do not get to choose what is or isn’t transphobia, much in the same way white people do not get to dictate what is or isn’t racist.

And male people do not get to tell female people what is and isn't sexist. And cool girl pandering "intersectional feminists" also don't get to consent to males in female spaces on behalf of the other women who don't give their consent.