“Assigned” gender at birth? Nope, assigned a husband a birth because of sex

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www.bbc.com/news/av/world-africa-46025489/why-oromo-baby-girls-can-be-engaged-on-the-day-they-are-born

From the brief video I can’t make a full comment on the implications of this in this particular culture, but it demonstrates how the actual observed sex of a baby has significant implications around the world that make complaints about “acts of violence” by doctors and midwives at the birth of trans people so fucking offensive.

but it demonstrates how the actual observed sex of a baby has significant implications around the world that make complaints about “acts of violence” by doctors and midwives at the birth of trans people so fucking offensive.
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Again, nothing to do with trans people but they always get dragged into it somehow round here.

It is to do with trans people. Some trans activists claim trauma from doctors “assigning” them a gender:

slate.com/human-interest/2014/06/infant-gender-assignment-unnecessary-and-potentially-harmful.html

The reality is that sex is observed. Nothing more, nothing less. In the culture in the video, once that sex is observed, it’s determined that that female baby needs to be assigned a husband for the rest of their life. In India, the observation of the female sex in utero and postnatal you’re means female foetuses and babies are killed. It’s their sex that determines this. This is what goes on all around the world and now adults in Western society are claiming their “gender assignment” - in reality a perfectly logical sex determination- as equally traumatic. I find that offensive.

Yes, because babies with vulvas and vaginas are not just noted as 'girls' at the time of birth, they are assigned second class status and, in different cultures, a range of other oppressive realities that will significantly limit their lives, choices and well-being.

What YAS said

'Acts of violence' - really? Or do you actually mean baby girls (and sometimes their mothers) being murdered because of their sex?

Darnit - if only they could all just announce that they are boys/men eh?

Relevant thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3301083-Transwomen-were-coercively-and-violently-assigned-male-at-birth#prettyPhoto

Yeah, but if we criticise the practice of child marriage, FGM etc we are showing our privileged colonialist attitudes and not being intersectional enough. Expect a ticking off from Dr Haddock.

Are transmen ever 'assigned' incorrectly at birth? Bollocks. Literally bollocks.

Completely agree OP. It's so insulting to females that men try to claim they are oppressed because they've been designated male.

Ok but fifty percent of the current trans movement is an overreaction (same could be said of most political movements that are mostly practiced by Western under 30s). This is an issue in its own right. I really don’t think it’s necessary to make this about trans activism.

They've not been 'designated' male gendercritter - they are male. Observation of external genitalia is an excellent guide in nearly all cases of internal sex organs and therefore biological sex. The gender crap with babies starts as soon as the first pink or blue garment is put on the baby, the first boy/girl card appears, the first girl/boy helium balloon appears.

As a midwife, I observed the sex of quite a few babies - I had no idea I was being violent and am wondering if I will shortly be getting the 'midnight knock' for infringing the rules according to trans ideology.

Right, I've got you...(took a while). Yes, I agree.
There is no comparison whatsoever and Trans people trying to make a comparison really need to open their eyes to the horrific situation people around the world are in.

Like the poor transman raped in the back of a taxi, who afterwards, sobbed out to the police "but I kept telling him I was a man". Heart absolutely breaks for them.

You cannot identify out of the oppression automatic to being in possession of female biology. How you feel about it and how you view it and your personal politics is not relevant to a rapist or a religion or any other males who wish to use it.

Yes I imagine all the "trans boys" statistics would suggest were kidnapped by Boko Haram (because gender is innate right?) felt the same.