Another fatal incel attack

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www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/tallahassee-yoga-shooter-incel-far-right-misogyny-video
Right Misogynist Who Railed Against Women And Minorities Online

Scott Beierle killed two women at a Florida yoga studio on Friday night. He had posted a series of misogynistic videos and songs online, and appeared to identify as an “involuntary celibate.” This is the second deadly attack by an “involuntary celibate” in 2018.

LillyoftheCentralValley

I think you mean AR-15

Amnesty advocate that there is a right to sex?

2015 article, 'Why is a pimp helping to shape Amnesty’s sex trade policy?' by Kat Banyard
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/22/pimp-amnesty-prostitution-policy-sex-trade-decriminalise-brothel-keepers

Women are told from birth that they must always be nice, never display anger. Let alone act on it!

But on the flipside, boys are told not to hit girls but its fine for women to slap men - it's an accepted comedy trope in films.

Many women wont say no to strange men in public when they request sex, let alone slap them.

Men control the media we see. Why do women slap men in films? Why is it considered amusing - is it the incongruity?
Does it make them fear for their lives?

Yip it raises my eyebrows also, but if you Replace a right to sex with a right to have children and then think how low you would put in your hierarchy of needs, would you be more accepting that it is fairly fundamental to happiness? I am thinking of the hurt that wome around here express when they can’t have children or cant find a partner or ivf is refused.

Men control the media we see. Why do women slap men in films?

I'm not sure tbh, but it's definitely more something seen more in films aimed at a female audience, like romcoms.

reminder that the OP is about the fact that:

Scott Beierle killed two women at a Florida yoga studio on Friday night. He had posted a series of misogynistic videos and songs online, and appeared to identify as an “involuntary celibate.” This is the second deadly attack by an “involuntary celibate” in 2018.

Obviously not on the level of men murdering their partners etc, but it's one of those things which would seem horrific if turned around (i.e. a man slapping a woman) and I don't believe it's to do with the difference in strength because a slap wouldn't necessarily hurt a woman much more than it would a man.

Perhaps you should start a separate thread?

Please start your own thread, because this is like when women try to have a discussion about FGM, and someone drops in to derail it on to male circumcision.
Since women slapping men in comedy films doesn't lead to an epidemic of violence against men in real life, its absurd to bring it up on a thread about two women who were murdered.

Scott

TV and films are absolutely full of graphic and sexualised violence against women. You must be joking.

Sorry, X-posted everyone.

I will try to re-rail the thread. I do not believe that sex is a basic need at the same level as food and shelter. Yes, some people kill themselves due to lack of sex, but without food you'll die whether you want to or not.

He was a fat, ugly freak and has done the world a favour by topping himself. Absolutely tragic that he took two innocent victims along with him though.

Although without sex then the population would die. Interest8ng that it’s sex and not reproduction that is the fundamental need and therefore human right

Although it’s worth rembering that the hierarchy was developed by a man. A man who also puts sexual intimacy in, at a slightly higher level (obsessed?)

However, It’s hard to totally dismiss it if half the population are going to insist it’s a basic need. It’s tied to pretty hard wired biology.

The heirarchy has been criticised as reflecting western cultures primarily. Perhaps we need a femisit version of the hierarchy. Would women put physical body security as more basic a need than reproduction ( which I propose should replace sex) ?

Ah nothing to see here ladies, it’ll be written off as a ‘one off incident’, NAMALT, male violence isn’t a worldwide problem nu-uh.

As soon as this hit the news and it was clear that it happened at a yoga studio I knew it would be another incel, raging at women for not catering to his sense of entitlement.

I'd imagine he was mentally ill, which poses the question as to why so many men nowadays have mental health issues?

In today's edition of Dispatches from Bunbury she helpfully reminds us all not to feed the MRDucks.

Guardian article with additional background:

"A gunman who killed two people and wounded five others at a yoga studio in Florida appears to have made videos voicing hatred of women and black people, likening himself in one clip to Elliot Rodger, the self-identified “incel” student who killed six people near the University of California.

Friday’s attack by Scott Paul Beierle, a former teacher and military veteran, at a busy upscale shopping plaza in Tallahassee was stopped only when members of the yoga class tackled him. Authorities said the gunman killed himself. Those he shot dead, Nancy Van Vessem and Maura Binkley, had ties to Florida state university (FSU).

It later emerged the 40-year-old had once been banned from the university’s campus and had been arrested twice for grabbing women, though the charges were ultimately dropped.

Beierle, who had moved to the central Florida town of Deltona after getting a graduate degree from FSU, appeared to post a series of videos on YouTube in 2014 where he called women “whores” if they dated black men, said many black women were “disgusting” and described himself as a misogynist.

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A Tallahassee police spokesman would not confirm or deny the videos were Beierle’s. However, the man speaking in the videos looks like Beierle and biographical details mentioned in the videos match known facts about Beierle, including details about his military service. Also, the poster’s YouTube username included the word “Scott” Beierle’s first name. The existence of the videos was first reported by BuzzFeed.

In one video, the man said promiscuous women deserved to be crucified and he suggested putting up landmines to keep people from crossing into the US from Mexico.

In another video, the man who appeared to be Beierle likened his adolescent self to Rodger, a 22-year-old who killed six students and wounded more than a dozen others near the University of California, Santa Barbara, before killing himself in 2014. Rodger was a self-identified “incel,” short for “involuntary celibate”." (continues)

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/02/tallahassee-florida-yoga-shooting

There has to be a way of keeping creepy geezers like that who're no longer students off of college campuses.

cont. background:
"A public records search showed Beierle was charged with misdemeanor battery for incidents in 2012 and 2016, and criminal trespassing in 2014. On Saturday afternoon, authorities said he had been “the subject of prior calls for service in the Tallahassee area related to harassment of young women”."

This is why hate crime legislation is bullshit, when misogyny is never recognised even in blindingly obviously cases when people literally shouted 'I hate women' from the rooftops.

He sought out, specifically, white women, by going to a yoga class. Tallahassee is 43% non-white, but he sought out a place that would be filled with white women, to punish them with death for not having sex with him.

The Guardian etc. will tell you that he was a racist, etc., and yes he was, but that wasn't what motivated this murder spree.

I agree QuietContraryMary - makes it hard not to believe that (mainly male) lawmakers etc think we don’t deserve protection, that we’re in some way viewed as second class.

The red pill/ incel forums are fucking terrifying.
They'd be funny if it weren't for the kennel of hatred.
As somebody pointed out above they don't even view overweight/normal/older women as potential mates.
They believe they're owed sex by the most "desirable" women who are whores for wanting to sleep with good looking/social guys "Chads" ahead of them.

It's a weird computer game/transactional view of relationships whereby they feel of you do X you get good guy points which should entitle you to sex.

You'd like to think that twenty years ago these people would grow out of it or be told by friends to grow up and act normally if they want a girlfriend, now they have this echo chamber that validates and fuels them