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Women’s Place - cancelled Leeds meeting

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Goldenbuzzer · 01/11/2018 13:35

Came across this FOI request regarding the cancellation of the booking - it’s been updated today.

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/womens_place_uk_booking?nocache=incoming-1257930#incoming-1257930

As well as publishing all their emails about cancelling the booking and redrafts of the press release, Leeds council today, accidentally published the name and phone number of the person who made the original booking - since been removed. I can’t believe they actually did that...

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Ereshkigal · 01/11/2018 20:11

Wow.

OldCrone · 01/11/2018 20:22

Thanks, QuietContraryMary. For some reason I hadn't see the updates from today - when I clicked on the OP's link earlier, I could only see the updates up to yesterday. But I can see them all now, and as others have said, even in the second upload, they've still left in personal details.

RollerJed · 01/11/2018 20:32

I feel like we aren't being taken serious as women, but we are seriously considered a threat Confused

This thread has actually made me feel a bit deflated by it all. A simple meeting booking has caused 32 people to complain and it's cancelled, how many have complained about self ID and what's the outcome there...?

Popchyk · 01/11/2018 20:35

And in all those emails, thousands of words in total, there wasn't even one example of the transphobia that they were accusing WPUK of.

Nobody at the council stopped to find evidence of this supposed wrongdoing before leaping into action to denounce WPUK.

It raises very serious questions about the people at Leeds council. And their links to outside agencies.

NicoAndTheNiners · 01/11/2018 20:38

Serious breach of GDPR to release the bookers name surely. Guess the council will face a massive fine for that. Hopefully they've been reported to the IC.

OldCrone · 01/11/2018 20:41

Hopefully they've been reported to the IC.

Who can do this? Is it up to the person whose personal data has been released?

ThatsYouThatIs · 01/11/2018 20:58

The booker of the room is aware that her details are online but is not in a position to do anything until tomorrow now (I'm not the booker btw).

I've contacted whatdotheyknow to ask for the appendices to be removed due to the personal data in them but not sure if anything will be done until tomorrow.

It's very poor that LCC have managed to post personal data twice. I wonder if Judith Blake and Tom Riordan are going to do anything to ensure the room booker is not targeted by TRAs given they are ultimately responsible for the data provided.

Ereshkigal · 01/11/2018 21:02

I really hope the person reports to the ICO.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 01/11/2018 21:05

And in all those emails, thousands of words in total, there wasn't even one example of the transphobia that they were accusing WPUK of

yes

people just said 'transphobia' and everyone nodded along like nodding bloody dogs

not one of those numpties said 'prove it'

the starting assumption is that women are in the wrong isn't it?

Ereshkigal · 01/11/2018 21:07

What breaches do we need to notify the ICO about?
When a personal data breach has occurred, you need to establish the likelihood and severity of the resulting risk to people’s rights and freedoms. If it’s likely that there will be a risk then you must notify the ICO; if it’s unlikely then you don’t have to report it. However, if you decide you don’t need to report the breach, you need to be able to justify this decision, so you should document it.

Micke · 01/11/2018 21:11

Given they justified cancelling the whole meeting because of threats of violence and bombs, they'd better bloody report themselves to the ICO over this personal data leak - if a meeting was dangerous then sharing her name and number is clearly dangerous too.

Ereshkigal · 01/11/2018 21:19

Especially as they made a point of not sharing other emails because personal details.

SarahJane73 · 01/11/2018 22:01

The individual affected can also report it to the ICO:

ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/your-personal-information-concerns/

But, yes, Leeds Council are obliged to report it to the ICO themselves - particularly as they are aware of the very serious threats from transactivists and (apparently) think them so dangerous that they couldn't risk holding this meeting.

Melamin · 01/11/2018 22:07

And in all those emails, thousands of words in total, there wasn't even one example of the transphobia that they were accusing WPUK of

No, not one example, but they were pretty damned sure that WPUK were going to efforts in order to do whatever it was.

arranfan · 01/11/2018 22:18

But, yes, Leeds Council are obliged to report it to the ICO themselves

Beyond that, I'd argue that this is actually in the category of a data breach that is a "high risk to the rights and freedoms of an individual" (given the context) and that the Data Controller at Leeds needs to contact the individual.

www.hoganlovells.com/en/publications/the-gdpr-introduces-new-notification-rules-for-personal-data-breaches

Potential for substantial fines if they don't - and they are substantial.

Ereshkigal · 01/11/2018 22:20

particularly as they are aware of the very serious threats from transactivists and (apparently) think them so dangerous that they couldn't risk holding this meeting.

Exactly. Oops.

OldCrone · 01/11/2018 22:51

There is another update from the person who made the FOI request.
www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/womens_place_uk_booking#outgoing-832359

Bespin · 02/11/2018 06:19

so no one is even going to comment on why an organisation didn't put their correct name on the booking and then wonder why when they were found out that the council cancelled that booking?

Micke · 02/11/2018 06:35

To me it looks like that thing that I do with my own name even, when I'm writing in a rush and missspell, then have to go back and overwrite it.

However it is hard to see on the scans, and I see that a higher quality one has been requested.

If you read the thread, you'll see that people have indeed already mentioned it.

Besides all of this, if there were any confusion on the form, it would have been easy to clarify - the booker was right in front of the person taking the form (hands up who's handed forms in, and had the person do exactly that because of poor hand writing - it's a normal thing to do), it would be completely normal to read them back too.

AND they'd originally booked this venue in April - perhaps the sponsoring councillor could weigh in here at some point.

QuietContraryMary · 02/11/2018 06:54

"perhaps the sponsoring councillor could weigh in here at some point."

I'm not sure she necessarily wants to be hounded to death by foaming-at-the-mouth TRAs.

Bespin · 02/11/2018 06:54

Yes I would love the sponsoring councilor to clarify thst too

QuietContraryMary · 02/11/2018 06:57

Yeah I bet you fucking would.

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Goldenbuzzer · 02/11/2018 07:23

I can not believe the bookers details are still there. Leeds themselves have admitted the safety concerns.
I hope the Booker makes a complaint and that this is costly to Leeds financially. It’s unacceptable that her details are still there after they were told yesterday afternoon they had been published. ( first document was removed ) and then they did it again almost straight away. Hope the Booker is feeling ok. If it was me I’d be furious.

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Micke · 02/11/2018 07:30

I'm not sure she necessarily wants to be hounded to death by foaming-at-the-mouth TRAs.

yes true, but her name is already out there as a sponsor, so some of that harm has already been done, and TBH, as a councillor, I feel like there's a certain amount of responsibility here as the holder of a public role.

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