Are those with autogynephilia shouting 'TWAW' ashamed of their fetish?

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I'm wondering if some of these younger guys who experience AGP (and not gender dysphoria) are insisting that they are women so vehemently because they are ashamed of their fetish? It's been much discussed that the trans rights movement is a men's sexual rights movement when it comes to AGP, but I also wonder if some of the more woke crowd feel ashamed of their kink because they genuinely do want to consider themselves as feminists. In that case, they may be in denial of the sexist reasons why dressing as a woman turns them on and instead claim they are women themselves to legitimise their non-politically correct fetish. Kinks are impulses rooted in social taboos, after all, so it's not surprising if cross-dressing with its sexist undertones becomes more alluring in a time when women have gained more power in society, and it doesn't necessarily reflect misogyny otherwise, just as a woman with a fantasy of being dominated doesn't usually want that IRL. At the same time, people can't bear to have their kinks ridiculed, but the term 'transvestite' (which the heterosexual, penis equipped men tend to be) conjures up quite a comical image due to portrayal in the media, so all the TWAW shouting may also be a pathological re-branding, a way to transgress once again. I know someone whom I think may be behaving like this, so I wondered what anyone else thinks. Sorry if this topic is repeated elsewhere, but I haven't seen quite this take on other threads yet.

Bonions - that's really disgusting. I can think of the ways in which I've tried not to take up space in my life and make myself invisible to men as a result of growing up with a violent father. That this is imitated as a kink...beyond words.

"men who like to dress as women who have no interest in living as a woman or becoming a woman"

I'm curious. What does "living as a woman" mean for these people if not dressing as and acting out the imagined stereotypical gestures of a women?

I would have thought that includes people like Eddie Izzard and Grayson Perry???

I mean that they are heterosexual men who identify as men and do not claim to be women. But they like to dress in clothes and makeup that would be considered “female”

I can remember reading comments from AGPs admitting they can't be upfront about it as it was, historically, a reason for the NHS to deny treatment - hormones, etc.
Yes, and all the more reason for wanting self-ID.
I'm surprised by this person I know who previous referred to themselves as a transvestite and now claims to be a woman. They described it exactly as a kink in the past, which I don't object to, but it can't justify their claiming to now be a woman, and I'm trying to work out their motivation. To be harsh, I think they are something of a failure in their life otherwise, but 'being a woman' gives them the attention they crave, and also access to women of the handmaiden type that they wouldn't otherwise have. It's completely about 'common people' syndrome as the other poster put it, for this white middle class guy from a supportive family, it gives them a reason to say they are oppressed and that's why they are not more successful in life. I was always gender critical with this person (before I knew what that was) and told them plainly that I accepted their kink but that it didn't make them a woman, and they accepted that, but since all the TRA stuff escalated they have become more militant and I don't feel we could talk about it any more.

"Let me fetishisize your oppression" is what I get from that.

Bonions - yep, repulsive. This person I know was someone I also had an intimate relationship with, I felt fetishized not only for being a woman but for being from a poor background. I think in this case it's exactly like 'Common People', because they are a creative type and feel they have to suffer in some way in order to have something interesting to say, their AGP disguised as 'living as a woman' gives them the perfect excuse to do that.