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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

3 transgender best friends transition together age 11 after years of bullying

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TrashyTerf · 31/10/2018 12:08

www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/three-transgender-best-friends-transition-13510930

"Three transgender friends are supporting each other as they transition from male to female age 11.

Lily, Fiana and Zuri have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria and will soon undergo medical intervention to prevent their bodies changing from that of boys to men."

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Mrsfrumble · 10/11/2018 19:49

The fact that they are from Texas explains a lot. Having lived in that part of the states for a while, I couldn’t help but notice that there are strong, stereotypical, conservative gender roles which get enforced early on.* Lots of sports themed stuff and camo for boys. Frills and those fugly headbands on tiny newborn girls. My children, with their primary-coloured stripes and androgynously shaggy hair, caused some confusion.

*Obviously not every single person in that part of the States conforms to this. But it was a cultural difference that was very noticeable to me as a Brit coming from London to live there.

ChiaraRimini · 10/11/2018 20:11

Heart breaking.
As a girl I liked science, Star Wars and my brothers Action Men. As a teen I was into indie music, DMs, German army surplus coats, jeans and band T-shirt. Did a science degree, thoroughly enjoyed being a mum to 3 kids as well as having a career.
why have we gone backwards???

TrashyTerf · 10/11/2018 20:27

So, they grew up together, were bullied together, and are now transing together...

I hope that they sue their doctors together also.

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AugustL · 10/11/2018 20:57

Around the age of two, Lily started asking for different types of toys, and then after that, the first big thing that we noticed was that she wanted to dress as Cinderella for Halloween,” Lily’s mum Julie Maerz said.

!! FFS. It is incredibly disturbing that this was a reason they thought their child was trans. Age 2, "different types of toys",?!!?! "Big thing" to ask to dress a Cinderella for Halloween!?!?!. For fk sake. How sad and wrong that this leads them to think their child is "born wrong".

The Mirror should not be printing this without adding (which NHS states) that any child can play with any toy and this & wanting to wear Cinderella dress doesn't mean child is trans and needs to attempt to convert to the opposite sex. Hopefully parents will have sense when they read this and not start worrying over the toys their child plays with or wants to dress up as. Is this an American thing or what? I'm sure Uk are/were more open and Americans were/are generally more conservative about what boys and girls should be doing

Racecardriver · 10/11/2018 21:08

The things these children supposedly said that caused the epiphany moment in their parents aren’t the words of a child. I honestly think their parents made it up. I often overheard my mother recounting to her friends ‘deep’ things I had apparently said to her that I definitely hadn’t. It’s very odd when parents do this.

Racecardriver · 10/11/2018 21:10

@mrsfrumble I had a very comical mental image of your androgynous Breton striped kids terroristing a small midwestern town as stereotypically American adults ran from them with expressions of horror and confusion.

Barnyboy03 · 10/11/2018 21:23

And so these three poor kids go down this road and the bullying all stops...."WRONG" it will only get worse. Kids can be so nasty to others and not even realise it but all to often they are just telly the truth. What happens when these kids and others like them change their minds...O that's ok they can change back into what they were born...I'm so pleased I don't have young children and glad I don't live in the USA as sadly it seems anything is possible there :-(

Everincreasingfrequency · 10/11/2018 21:27

"But it was a cultural difference that was very noticeable to me as a Brit coming from London to live there."

That is interesting - Maybe it is even more stark in other countries but once I started idly looking (London/South East here), the distinction between most boys' and girls' clothes and hair, even under the age of 5, seems really clearcut. Particularly that short 'boy' hairstyle which, it occurred to me, you never see on a girl of that age (I accept you don't see it on all 3-5 yr old boys but it is already quite common at that age).

Clothes as well - you basically never see a boy in anything even flowery, let alone in a dress. I would imagine it almost certainly leads to teasing/bullying etc if a boy does wear so-called girls' clothes.

I remember some toys used to be either labelled girls and boys toys, or more subtly, divided into sections with one that was very obviously directed at girls - does that still happen?

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