Oh dear .......

[Mrspotter12]

guyfawkesrevolt.news/dads-may-soon-be-able-to-breastfeed-with-hormone-kit-that-grows-milk-ducts/

What a lot of money wasted that could have gone on curing cancer

Why would you want to full a baby with hormones?

It's bollocks, it's a student's product design end of year project or something along those lines.

It's just the fact that it's been thought if!!!

Its some fantasy that's been designed as a product design student's end of course project. It has absolutely no science behind it! It is not ever going to exist or be approved for use. It doesn't and cannot function how this student intends. No idea how she's managed to get herself so much publicity for this.

I see from further reading that this has won the grand prize at the inaugural "meaning-centred design awards".

"Jury chair, Julie Jenson Bennett, commented:
“The chestfeeding kit deserves particular attention because it challenges the fundamental meanings of male and female, father and mother, parent and child. At a time when we increasingly use hormones, medication and technology to change the life options available to us, Marie-Claire’s design concept goes right to heart of our taboos.”"

(www.meaningcentreddesignawards.com)

Hmm. Don't agree with that viewpoint at all.

Why oh why is no design student also creating kits that can recreate perineal tears, pregnancy-related piles, mastitis symptoms so fathers won't feel like they're missing out on the whole empathetic motherhood experience, not just the feeding bit?

There is science behind it, unfortunately.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/2161151-transgender-woman-is-first-to-be-able-to-breastfeed-her-baby/amp/

I'll try to find a link to the previous thread about it.

There is no science behind this. There is this one instance of a trans woman claiming (with no actual verifiable evidence) that they were able to produce "milk". They claim to have breastfed the baby for 6 weeks, and then to have used formula. I just don't believe it actually happened. And if it actually did happen then every single medical professional involved should be investigated for experimenting with a new born baby. How could anyone go along with this idea as best or even acceptable for a baby? No one could know what this substance produced contained and if it was suitable to be given to a baby.

Pombear 😂

All Male people can produce milk with the right drugs.

Not enough/of good enough quality to actually sustain an infant, mind you.

No idea how she's managed to get herself so much publicity for this

It's become painfully apparent that Freud had the whole penis envy thing exactly the wrong way round

^^ This with bells on

She is not revolutionary at all. Virtually every breast feeding mum would have hissed to their (male) partner at 2am that the world would be a much better place if he could feed the baby so they could get to sleep instead.

Dads don't want to do the 2am shitty feeds even if their kid is FF. They want the adulation of people in the cafe.

No one seems to be concerned about whether it would actually be good for the baby to drink it..... surely this is a key concern? If it is potentially more harmful than formula, surely it would come with huge health warnings....

Iused2B strange, isn't it, that there isn't any appetite to share those bits of pregnancy and motherhood!

Just the boob thing.

Ponders.

Wanders off, after pondering enough to not bother any more! Just the boob thing, blokes, that's all you want? Hmm!

The thing about breast feeding - which many women invest blood, sweat and tears in and is bloody hard work to manage even for a short time, and certainly not all women manage it - it's done exclusively for the baby and the baby's benefit, not for bloody fun and thrills. There's never any mention of the baby in all this 'chest feeding' and 'transplanted uterus' and never the slightest concern about how the hormones and exotic medical procedures might affect the child and the child's best interests. It's always exclusively about the wants of the adult for a desired experience.

And the basic equality issue of if money and time and staff are going to dedicate themselves to medically inducing men's bodies to do what they were never designed to do so they can breast feed, is an equal amount going to be invested in every woman who's body was designed to do it but has a medical difficulty doing it, and in every woman who's struggling to breast feed? On MN on any day you can find several desperate for support and pretty much sod all available to them.

Yup, messing about with a blokes hormones to try to make food for a newborn baby totes sounds like something a product design student at an arts college is qualified to do.

Just the boob thing.

Frankly I don't see there being a huge uptake among those not.. otherwise.. motivated.

sure, feeding my second was easy, but my first - sore/bleeding nipples, rock hard or leaky boobs, night wakings - it's not all blissful cuddles watching box-sets (although, TBF, once we got the hang of it, there was a fair bit of that)

Seems to me that they're just seeing the finished product, and not thinking about what it took to get there. Much like babies in general really.

Wouldn’t this damage establishing breastfeeding between mother (the cunty type) and the baby? Sounds like a vanity project for a particular type of entitled dad.

I know a college kid who won a grant for... writing the code which would "facilitate the contents of human memory being uploaded into the cloud".

All those internet billionaires out in California, USA? This is the crap they're funding.

It's noticeable that the people waxing enthusiastic about biohacking etc mostly seem not to have much training in human biology