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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

GC economic impact?

25 replies

anotherGCacademic · 25/10/2018 15:02

Am wondering how much mn GC feminists collectively have cost the Guardian and the Labour Party and anyone else? Can we do a little poll?

I personally have left Labour and Fawcett, have cancelled my Guardian membership and my monthly donation to the NSPCC.

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NowtSalamander · 25/10/2018 15:46

I never gave money to Labour - they have lost my vote though, if that matters to them (not sure they want votes from “transphobes”... or indeed anyone who doesn’t perfectly toe the line.

Stopped DD to amnesty.

Subscription to Speccie. Buy the Times.

Spasm0dic · 25/10/2018 17:01

P&g has lost me. Don’t use most of the other companies. Unfortunately I reckon I’m already on GCHQ’s watchlist so nothing I can do there.Smile

HilltopTractor · 25/10/2018 17:14

I left the Labour party.

I am boycotting M&S, P&G, Aviva etc.

I occasionally purchase the Times and bought the spectator when JK got the cover.

I always thought BS did the best frozen peas anyway.

LangCleg · 25/10/2018 17:20

I'd say I've stopped subscriptions and donations worth about £200 per month and redirected them elsewhere, either to small scale local charities, women's services holding out as single sex, and various GC crowdfunds/groups.

NoseringGirl · 25/10/2018 17:21

I left the Lib Dems. I didn't pay a lot for membership but I was very active in my local party and did a massive share of my area's campaign work. The only female member in my area that was active like that actually.

IdaBWells · 25/10/2018 17:58

I am left learning from a family of traditional working class Labour voters when Labour ideology was based on class criticism and collective rights (right to health care, good housing, women’s rights etc.). For that reason I have not bought the Guardian for many years as it had drifted into a lot of naval gazing nonsense much of the time and wasn’t saying anything new or even coherent. I found their journalistic voice to be very Londoncentric and smug. So never a Guardian subscriber (although potentially one if they returned to a leftist politics l recognized). I am also politically homeless as no party is supportive of women’s rights and acknowledges our biological reality, despite being 50% of the population!

Since I have become much more aware of GC and understood the very unbelievable scary effect that bad philosophy (such as Queer Theory) was having on politics, I have taken out subscriptions for publications online that are not too scared to debate and discuss these topics and have GC articles and writers, these include:

Medium (website that publishes essays on every topic, lots of great GC writers on there that have been blocked on Twitter or shut down in other formats, as well as every other point of view).
The Times
The Spectator

I also spend money for the first time in my life on crowdfunding such projects as Posie Parker posters and Dr. Nicola Williams’ organization. I also bought 3 of Posie’s dictionary definition of women t-shirts. I am definitely willing and able to spend money supporting women politically. The idea that crowdfunding is being done by the far-right is laughable when we are all aware that Gender Critical women are often on the left and there are a lot of us, very willing to give concrete support to organizations and individuals willing to stand up for us!

Also since the election of Trump and the attacks he has made on the media I also took out online subscriptions to a number of US publications that I often read. I also read European publications online such as the international version of Der Speigel in English to keep abreast of what the Germans are discussing politically because they are the biggest economy in Europe and big readers and thinkers as a nation.

My current project is reading about where all these ideas have originated, such as biological sex being a social construct (Judith Butler the mother of Queer Theory and her critics) and how they have become orthodoxy in academia. What I am puzzled by is how the idea that no-platforming and shutting down free speech is acceptable by so much of the left now.

IdaBWells · 25/10/2018 18:03

Typo in the first line “left leaning” rather than learning! Although to be fair I am doing a ton of reading and learning of current ideas on the left and what I am learning is radicalizing me.

StarsAndWater · 25/10/2018 18:09

I cancelled my guardian subscription. I now donate to Feminist Current every month.

anotherGCacademic · 25/10/2018 18:13

Yes, should have said that all that money saved (and more) is now going to GC feminist initiatives.

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ThePrincipal · 25/10/2018 20:28

Ocado is losing something like £300 a month worth of shopping from me.

Buying the Times.

Do you remember for a while people were saying everyone reads news on line now, no one pays for content or buys newspapers anymore.

I now think that TRUST is a very valuable commodity and that people are prepared to pay for trusted content, the internet is too full of junk.

ThePrincipal · 25/10/2018 20:28

What has NSPCC done?

Waterparc · 25/10/2018 20:29

I bought The Spectator at a corner shop.

stripes1 · 25/10/2018 20:33

Cancelled my monthly donation to Cancer Research. Stopped reading The Guardian. Will no longer be voting Lib Dem (having voted for them locally and nationally for 20+ years).

ThePrincipal · 25/10/2018 20:35

And what’s cancer research done? Confused

Trinity1976 · 25/10/2018 20:48

Quit the Green Party, will probably quit Unite too, but haven't yet.

anotherGCacademic · 25/10/2018 23:01

I thunk Unite is one of the best of a bad lot really. Len Mc has supported GC women at least. UCU on the other hand ...

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Spasm0dic · 25/10/2018 23:16

I think cancer research decentred women in its information about cervical cancer?

ErrolTheDragon · 26/10/2018 00:04

P&G, Aviva etc.

What have they done?
I've no choice re Aviva, they're my company pension provider.

We were Times subscribers anyway.

And what’s cancer research done?

'People with cervixes'. (But 'men' on stuff about prostate cancer)

GraceTheDisgrace · 26/10/2018 00:13

I stopped buying clothes from M&S and started buying them from FPFW, Posie, etc.

LangCleg · 26/10/2018 08:50

I think this is an interesting topic because we are endlessly bitched about in an ageist way. But nobody ever seems to remember that we, the saggy-titted ones (as Manchester Pride likes to put it) are the ones with disposable income.

genderrefusenik · 26/10/2018 16:07

Left the Labour party, no more subs and other contributions, will not vote for it again as long as it pursues anti-woman policies.

Will never buy the Guardian again (occasional buyer) or click on links. Subscribed to the Times.

TerfedOff · 26/10/2018 16:19

Left the Labour Party and used my monthly sub to donate to Fair Play for Women.

Subscribe to the Times and the Spectator. Used to buy the Guardian.

Have donated to all the fundraisers many times, bought T Shirts and attended several meetings.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 26/10/2018 16:26

Left Labour, now without a political home - am deadly serious when I say that the first party to halt the GRA changes can have my vote.

Donated via crowdfunding to political initiatives run by GC women.

MnerXX · 26/10/2018 17:54

Quit the green party. The hit is both financial and logistical as I was on the committee for over a year.

The Guardian - it will be a long time before I give them a penny.

loveyouradvice · 26/10/2018 18:38

NSPCC giving the WORST safeguarding advice ever - and refused to come on Mumsnet to talk about it when they were booked for a slot... just did a no show and then nothing more was heard.... Really bizarre and won't be forgotten by me and many others...

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