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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Oh fuck off sciencealert

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selfidentifyinggiraffe · 24/10/2018 03:33

https://www.sciencealert.com/trump-again-denies-science-by-proposing-unchangeable-definitions-of-sex-based-on-genitals?fbclid=IwAR2jjPRYvIPcnVJ0GQ-cGOo-wX7ICIbmm_LIfFTQgp51B7EpMb9ji6DdQao

Think I will unfollow. Calling it sciencealert... well people don't bother to read and understand the bollocks so it's just propaganda really isn't it on Facebook

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quixote9 · 24/10/2018 04:10

Trump is an excuse for a human being who's doing this is to get out the vote of Republicans. The idea being to terrify them with mxn in dresses, forming a mob with thousands of Ayrab-Mexico-brown-invaders who'll take The Good Guysâ„¢ guns away. Or some damn thing. The story changes every day.

So the first thing that happens is wall-to-wall coverage of people with purple hair outraged about the transgender thing and everything else.

In their alt-universe that's proof, proof!, the mobs truly exist and are coming.

Apparently, the numbers of Repubs planning to race out and vote has gone through the roof. It's worked beautifully. For Trump.

So that's point one. Point two is that he and his followers are such a monstrous waste of space, nobody can bring themselves to see justice in anything he says, even if it was by accident. Plus the US is a parsec or so behind the UK in understanding the women's rights angle on any of this.

Result: sciencealert publishing drivel. Maybe just read them for other stuff? They aren't all bad.

gendercritter · 24/10/2018 07:40

I'm actually quite concerned about this issue with Trump. I think like our GRA consultation it will force peoples' hands and entrench their positions. I have already started seeing young women on IG (with a lot of followers) campaigning on this issue. It is giving them strength to come out and say you're a bigot if you share Trump's viewpoint. How do you move to a position of understanding the gc feminist side if you're standing up screaming with a megaphobe that twaw because in your view, trans people are yet again being horribly oppressed?

I think things could get very nasty and this ideology stands to get a lot more dominant. This is serious.

MIdgebabe · 24/10/2018 07:48

Serious beyond the feminsit problems. Polarisation rather than coming together debate ran through brexit and is a way for extremists to take control

deepwatersolo · 24/10/2018 07:57

"...But not every infant ends up neatly in one category or the other. Some fall into a category known as "intersex".

"Most people fall into the male-female binary but not all people. Transgender people exist, intersex people exist."

This constant hiding behind intersex conditions is so pathetic. Just because the TRAs have no argument.
And as if you could not genetically test for intersex conditions. I am absolutely positive that you can genetically test not only for the presence of SRY but also for conditions that cause hormone insensitivity. So, what is their argument?

Legally defining sex as unchangeable at birth may also further stigmatize transgender people, whose gender identity does not conform to the sex they were assigned when they were born.

How is that a valid reason to deny the material reality that sex is unchangeable? This is absurd. And how does it negate trans people's identity? surely they know they are trans, which means their sex does not match their gender.

I want transgender and gender diverse people to know that the medical community stands by them. And we as physicians as scientists know what the definition of gender is and we will stick to that.

And that is why we have to deny that sex cannot be changed? I just can't....

Charliethefeminist · 24/10/2018 10:55

Donald Trump was elected in the first place because of this shit, and his people know it. Hence the timing.

Spasm0dic · 24/10/2018 11:03

I am a scientist and therefore I’m going to use some woke non-science to prove something...?

Trousered · 24/10/2018 11:14

I clicked from that article to this Princeton paper.

journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0891243218763056?utm_source=TrendMD&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Gender_and_Society_TrendMD_1&

Abstract
Ample sociological evidence demonstrates that binary gender ideologies are an intractable part of formal organizations and that transgender issues tend to be marginalized by a wide range of social institutions.

Yes, because it's just not relevant or appropriate most of the time to include cross dressers or any other fetishist.

Yet, in the last 15 years, more than 200 colleges and universities have attempted to ameliorate such realities by adopting gender-inclusive facilities in which students of any gender can share residential and restroom spaces. What cultural logics motivate these transformations?

The gaslighting we are all experiencing of placing fetish in the public domain.

How can their emergence be reconciled with the difficulty of altering the gender order? Using an original sample of 2,036 campus newspaper articles, I find that support for inclusive facilities frames such spaces as a resource through which an institution can claim improved standing in the field of higher education.

Really, so by bullying woman into silence, the uni gets a better reputation?

This process of engendering reputation allows traditional gender separation in residential arrangements to be overcome,

By bullying and brainwashing women we can make them too afraid to assert their right to consent.

but it also situates institutional responsiveness to transgender issues as a means of enhancing a college or university’s public prestige.

Really, increasing sexual assault and refusing to allow women boundaries is prestige?

This, in turn, produces novel status systems in the field of higher education—albeit ones that perpetuate familiar forms of institutional and cultural exclusion.

"Yes indeed, women fuck off if you won't let the boys in"

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