Dawn Butler transphobic Instagram post

[AugustL]

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Menopause , women? Women? This post is soooo problematic. Did you not know, it's not only women who get the menopause, men have ovaries too, and get the menopause. Some women don't have menopause, they have a penis. This post is transphobic, and bigoted! The correct language you're allowed to use would be "people who have ovaries" . And you didn't even bother to put a trigger warning for your use of gendered language! My goodness, how transphobic, thought you'd been taught better! More training needed.

How about withdrawing hormone treatment in their late forties? Then TW can experience one of the most sublime joys of womanhood...

Yes I had a conversation with an particularly dedicated TRA once who said they would do this. But only the one in a few years.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating Ereshkigal. I would take that comment with a pinch of salt until it actually happened.

Mixing my metaphors here

I said something like "but if you stopped taking them you'd just revert back to male hormones". The TRA said, yes it would be like the menopause is for women and they planned to do it.

Enlightening view of women

Presumably if a woman transitions to male and takes cross sex hormones, they will not then experience a natural menopause (I presume)

I would presume that they would experience menopausal symptoms as a consequence of the medication.

Also due to the medication taken and increased risks etc, many may then have hysterectomies at a relatively early age and so surgical menopause.

Why is AGP being ignored in all of this?

What has AGP got to do with menopause?

Oh come on, give TRAs a chance to have their babies first, then we can learn all about woes of things like having prolapse etc before expecting them to educate us about menopause.

I do think women and this menopausal thing is still some kind of myth as not had some TRAs qualified fairytale pissybollocks official make a big announcement declaring discovery of menopause.

at manopause above

shock

She's gone and done it again on Twitter

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"Parliament has voted to support extending a woman's right to choose to Northern Ireland. The Government must take immediate steps to extend fundamental reproductive rights.

Theresa May must stop turning a blind eye to this injustice and finally move to the right side of history. "

Doesn't she know, it's not only women who have abortions... what's it Ireland have to say, "people".

Where are all the trans rights activists that usually police this language? Do they keep themselves quiet on her posts so as not to rock the boat, reveal their craziness, risk losing one of their key allies? Tbh thought Dawn would "know better" anyway...

I am not on twitter. Does Dawn often tweet on women's issues?

The instagram comments are revealing. Two comments from the same random man commenting on her looks & how she’s too young for the menopause. Fucking men. My thoughts on Dawn Butler’s stancecaside, it must be so depressing to put these posts out there & get nothing but hassle and bullshit in response.

Do you suppose she realises that, in using sane, accessible, accurate language, she has committed transphobia and broken all her own guidelines?

I can only assume she must not realise, so she must really not be aware of what is going on then, because she is probably the mp who is the strongest trans ally, and we've read here the reports of her speech at that trans conference, so she wouldn't purposely go against their rules. Can she really be unaware of how they police language, and the way language has to be all "inclusive" now, to the extreme, or else it's transphobic. It's weird. Unless she doesn't truly believe in the ideology, but I doubt that based on what we've seen/heard from her, unless she's just uninformed, supports on a shallow level - "poor trans people,let's be nice to them etc". These posts do show she doesn't truly believe though, if she did she'd "know"/say men can have abortions too, and non-binary and whatever else, use the neutral term "people" like in Ireland, or reduce it to "body part havers". No posts from TRAs challenging her on it either, possibly to not rock the boat. Unless she's posting like this, so as not to scare off the still sane Labour party voters/potential voters.

Yes the comments from that guy on her insta are creepy as fk

I think the posts show that when addressing one issue, she fails to consider others.

When tra ask for her support, she will speak for them and disregard how policies can have an impact in women and girls.

When speaking of women's issues, she then forgets how it can impact on transpeople.

I don't know if compartmentalising issues like this makes for good policies and laws.

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