Ok... so I’m getting SOOOOO confused

[Dontknowwhereisit]

A trans activist I follow on social media (who I’m not going to name as it’s irrelevant) has posted something about Trump and the fact that what Trump is doing is playing to the fears of those people who believe that there are two fixed gender identities (therefore inferring that there isn’t).

So (at the moment) I personally agree that for ‘gender identity’ there is more than the binary M/F and that trans, non binary or whatever you want to call yourself is a valid gender ‘identity’ and I’m happy to use what ever pronouns you want. However I believe this is distinct from biological Sex which IS M/F (or in rare cases intersex), and that natal females need to continue to have their rights preserved and respected.

But what confuses me is that this person is a vocal hater of gender critical feminists but in effect saying what a lot of GC feminists are saying too eg acknowledging is that a trans is a gender identity which is a distinct different identity to a natal one.

So basically saying the same thing.

So. Confused.

Is anyone able to enlighten me as to how to unpick this?!

Interesting - I follow another person who is non binary and they make the following statement (paraphrased) ‘transmisogyny and intersex erasure is perpetuated by the arguments that sex is stable and gender is fluid’.

The way I understand things, they define "non binary" to mean "anyone who is not transsexual, aka, wants bottom surgery. If they are not that picky, then they define nb to mean "anyone who is not trans". In other words, nb means someone who is not 100% masculine or feminine stereotype. Even most transpeople are nb...

Not sure, but I'm guessing that they define transmisogyny to mean "anyone who hates a trans person". I've seen some trans try to define it to mean "anyone who hates a transwoman for being a woman". Er, it's circular. First they need to prove that a bio male can be female. They are actually more accurate if they just stick to the word "bigot" but even that assumes that there is no good reason for hating a transwoman's PENIS in my shower cubicle.

"Intersex erasure" means... Someone who thinks intersex isn't a legitimate medical condition. There is no one who actually believes that though. Go on, find me this person please who believes that intersex medical condition doesn't exist.

They don't reason very well if you notice. Every "argument" is built upon some other argument which at no time is ever proven to be true.

For instance, they believe that biological sex is a made-up completely arbitrary social construct -- so they ignore the obvious material reality wherein you can easily predict which humans can get pregnant.

How is gender fluid? Do they mean gender is comprised of water? Or do they mean the person with a ladycock can turn into a malevagina? And where are all their unicorns?

Feminists want people to be whoever they turn out to be, and if that doesn't fit into social boxes, they want to change society.

Trans activists (#notalltrans) believe completely in the social boxes and want to change bodies to fit them.

Tangential to the trans point of view (again #notall trans) is that the boring "cis" people just fit their given boxes, whereas the cutting edge cool kids who are trans are making daring and original statements by insisting on belonging in another box.

So your trans friend who's anti-gender critical is shooting for the "cool" prize. The fact that their views are closer to gender critical would distress them hugely. Those people are uncool! Ewww!

Final point: sex and gender used to be used more or less synonymously. Some of the puzzling usage is imply the old usage. The absoluteness of the distinction between sex=biology, gender=social role is a recent phenomenon.

I am absolutely no fan of Trump, but his administration by saying very clearly that they are only making policy based on objective reality and science when it comes to “gender” issues is a relief. Also anyone paying attention over here who is a bit confused might also wonder what the fuss is all about and why trans people in the UK are upset. Once they realise that most trans activists want to redefine categories of humans NOT based on biological sex it could help peakTrans them.

This is my biggest issue with trans ideology too. It goes around in circles and makes no sense. I don't see how you can say that gender is meaningless and anyone can choose whatever gender identity they want - something I agree with - and at the same time say that there are fixed behaviours or traits associated with one gender or the other and if you express such traits that defines your gender e.g. if a boy likes pink it means he is in fact a she, or at least nonbinary.

Surely all it means is that he is a person who likes pink and his gender is irrelevant? The circular logic of it all makes my head hurt.