Friend supporting stonewall

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The wife of a friend of mine has just tweeted me asking me to follow a link to the stonewall consultation page. This surprises me as they're lesbians but I can assume they're not looking at this critically.

I really want to send the FPFW link to her but I don't want to lose the friendship. We've never discussed being gender critical as we're friends through work and my work are woke...

Best to ignore? Or reply with something 😬

You could tweet back that you won't because you support the right of lesbians to have same sex relationships.

I imagine a lot of people really trust the stonewall brand and haven't necessarily looked into it. If I wasn't in mumsnet I have no doubt I would have automatically assumed I supported stonewalls position. Because it woouldnt cross your mind stonewall could be homophobic would it??

Send her the Jonny Best articles on medium. And some stuff by Miranda Yardley. I think they were helpful for a friend of mine who was struggling to see past the superficial parallel with LGB rights.

Brilliant. Thank you.

I've heard some older lesbian couples who no longer socialize in the settings of their youth (well, who does?) aren't aware of the encroachment of males into what used to be lesbian only groups. Your friends may not have heard how things have changed, and trust the Stonewall brand.

Send something by a gender critical trans person - Debbie or Kristina from Economist series for eg and a link to Stonewall open letter/petition

Tell her that youve already done the consultation, but you think might have to agree to disagree on this issue as you think that self ID is too far in the other direction and open to abuse

She's said she's going to do some more research
I mentioned homophobia and gender stereotypes, especially children. I think she was possibly not expecting me to be particularly informed. Thanks FWR. would never be where I am without you.

You could tweet back that you won't because you support the right of lesbians to have same sex relationships.

Yup, that would be my reply tbh.

Followed by Jonnys article when they asked 'WTF'?!

My two lovely female friends who are in a relationship are the same. They're lovely people who genuinely feel trans people are hideously oppressed. They won't even call themselves gay or lesbian anymore because those aren't inclusive terms. They identify as queer.

I've left it. They've swallowed this ideology too completely and it's coming from a place of kindness. I'm just tackling other people.

This is an very good video of a talk by Kristina Harrison. I suggested a friend who was not at all GC look at it and she really got it. She's since sent the link to her daughter. KH is married to an 'avowed lesbian', if that helps.