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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Liberty takes a turn at jumping that poor, over-jumped shark

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pombear · 21/10/2018 18:53

twitter.com/libertyhq/status/1053337483302367232

Liberty says:
If feminism is fundamentally about inclusivity, equality and empowerment then the fight for trans equality should be a feminist issue

I don't get how this is a rational argument. When did feminism become a cover-all for 'being inclusive and empowering to absolutely everyone'?

Then it's not feminism. It's just a standard base approach to humanity that we all should be subsribing to anyway.

I took a look at the Liberty team. Many have come from backgrounds of supporting children and vulnerable women.

How could you lose your way so much that suddenly 'feminism' doesn't equal 'women', it just equals 'everyone'?

Then I looked at their history:
We can never take our liberty for granted, and in times of economic instability and social upheaval, our basic rights come under attack. In 1934, as desperate people protested against poverty, corruption and the threat of fascism, the Council of Civil Liberties was formed to protect them, to champion the rights of ordinary people and hold the powerful to account. For 80 years we have been the conscience of the nation, and we are needed now as we were then to keep watch over our rights and freedoms.

Then I took a look at their current funders and thought, ah well.

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ScrimshawTheSecond · 21/10/2018 21:59

Yes, I cancelled my subscription to Liberty over it a couple of weeks ago, and told them why. I asked how they'd arrived at their policy decision, and was sent a long email response that managed to not really say much, other than 'Stonewall'.

PierreBezukov · 22/10/2018 21:39

My word. That Islington stuff. Gay men given free access into children's homes in the name of 'progressive', Left policies. No checks or balances.

And the people who didn't speak up, who lacked moral courage.

As Dietrich Bonhoeffer, one of the few who spoke out against Hitler, said: 'Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act'.

Shame on them who didn't speak out then, and who aren't speaking out now.

DoYouLikeBasghetti · 22/10/2018 21:43

It's my understanding that the right to trans equality IS a feminist issue. Just not the way they're saying Grin

Needmoresleep · 22/10/2018 23:09

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