Facebook - not feeling brave now

[ChampagneCommunist]

I posted the FairPlay for Women link on my own FB feed, got quite a few likes.

Feeling a bit emboldened, I put the link on my local community group and have been rounded on as transphobic 100%.

I have been polite, non-confrontational and been very careful about the words and phrases I used.

I'm about to start a new job in my town and now wondering if I should delete the thread

Thanks sub.

I just need to sound vair vair right on.

Accepting the term 'cis'? http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3363768-Accepting-the-term-cis

Ah, howls thinking here

This is where the whole trans argument falls down. It relies on people accepting cis. If people can define their own gender then they can also define NOT having a gender. I don't have a gender so by their own definition of cis, I can not be cis. It's like asking someone what their religion is and refusing to accept "I'm an atheist" as the answer.

I don't believe in gender so I don't believe in cis.

I started a new job recently and also worried about this. My Facebook profile is set to private and I'm connected with business contacts on Twitter so maybe think about a personal v public profile and you can still share but rant here on MN if you feel concerned. Freedom of speech is not what it was before social media!

I posted, had one like and nada ever since. Am hoping someone has looked into the matter a bit more cos of what I said but would have liked a few queries so that I could have explained more.

I had something quite lovely and unexpected happen. A friend with trans family members (who she fully supports) commented, acknowledging that the proposed changes are being taken advantage of, and naming the problem of violence towards trans people as being men. It makes it a little difficult for virtue signalling mansplainers to talk over her, I think? Anyway, we had a nice chat on my feed agreeing that the current situation had grown toxic due to opportunists who really didn’t care about women or trans people.

Aside from that, a few likes from people I was rather worried about, and mostly silence, but have lost no friends as far as I can see.
Daring to feel a little positive.

I think it is so important that we always remain calm and respectful and only quote statistics for which we can link to proof if challenged. This doesn't mean we can't be assertive.

The TRAs want us to lose our rag, and then we would lose credibility. We aren't going to change the minds of the shouty TRAs. It's the reasonable people who are quietly reading our posts, who don't wish to get publicly involved, that are most likely to be influenced. By doggedly posting reasonable, evidence-based arguments, and not resorting to angry ranting, we will hopefully gain their support.

I am working on the basis that each person who speaks out will encourage five others to do so.

I focussed on question 12 and the implications it would have on women's sport. And my concern that no effort had been made to consult grass-roots sports clubs. Most people get that.

I also asked a couple of friends in advance to make positive comments.

I then posted in an politically aware interest group with lots of people I don't know, again focussing on sport, and got a lovely and equally careful comment back, thanking me, and wound up with a number of likes. I was so relieved.

I have now followed up my first post with a reminder about the consultation ending and the Fair Play for Women link. I feel a bit uneasy as it looks quite militant, so may take it down on Saturday. No likes, no comments.

I am working on the basis that each person who speaks out will encourage five others to do so.

Excellent advice.
It will hopefully have a snowball effect.
It's working as well. Who would have thought The Guardian would have the guts to discuss it? and they have managed to do so whilst remaining impartial as well.
Which is all we really want - to be able to discuss the issue properly, without getting shut down with constant shouts of being 'Transphobic' or having meetings disrupted by Transactivist thugs.

There's a glimmer of hope for women yet.

🙌🏻 It’s been worth it going back on Facebook! Got few more who done the GRA 👏

Beyond caring who I upset on Facebook they free you use delete friend. I welcome any delete from anyone who believes I being transphobic bigot and all other shit names

It’s worth those few more votes

Dunno what that square is on my post

Peak-transed 3 fellow students at uni today!
One shared the fpfw consultation response link on her own fb page.

All 3 submitted their own response there & then.

👍👍