Peaktrans and alone

[Pandoraslastchance]

I've just lost the last Facebook group where I was happy and felt supported as a good 90% (unfortunately the more vocal members of the group) have drunk the koolaid and keep posting near daily about their support and that twaw.

I peaktrans a little while ago but kept quiet as I don't normally join in discussing politics or heavy topics but it's now taking over parenting groups and they are seemingly competing to be the most woke.

It is a bit lonely this side of the fence.

Just leave them then, it's only a Facebook group? Or is your post just for screenshot purposes?

We don't know about the rest of Pandora's life, Turph, maybe the FB groups have been really important to her. The message I get from the screenshot you posted, Pandora, is that it's ok for transwomen to say 'suck my lady dick' but anyone not trans can't mention this and has to tolerate it. Well, there's tolerance and then there's total capitulation. Seems that poster has utterly capitulated so TRAs can say absolutely anything at all and get away with it.

As someone who is nearly housebound Facebook and here are my main communications.
I just despair that everywhere is being woke and kowtowing to this transphilosophy that they are "brave and stunning" and not one word can be said against them. Not even their own words.

Get some new Facebook groups? I'm on there, and I find people hardly ever talk about trans issues. Do you have interests you could start following up on there?

Start your own group. You will find lots of like minded people to join you, because when you get told off for being gender critical there are always lots of people on your side but not brave enough to speak up.

Other topics are available...though not on MN seemingly!

Get yourself on Twitter and follow all the gender critical people on there - there's loads of them and they're a right laugh to be honest.

Once you're on Twitter it's very hard to get yourself off it again as you just get caught up in it all and there is all sorts of interesting people tweeting all sorts of stuff.

It just seems that every group that I was in parenting,decorating, local, a book one amongst others have now really started pushing twaw and anyone who doesn't agree 100% is automatically a T#$f which becomes very isolating but that's what is wanted isn't it? For gc people to become isolated and beaten down so that we change our mind.

I shall have a wander over to Twitter and set up a profile.

Twitter is excellent. I made a conscious decision to only link up with people who inspire/amuse/inform me and, even when we are discussing TRAs & MRAs and the state of the world, it's a hugely positive experience. Plus I've learned a lot. Only problem is getting off it to do normal things like eat and go to the loo.
Hope you find a supportive group OP, it's extra tough if you are physically isolated.

I've just been kicked out of a group talking about period poverty because someone was trying to recruit girl Guiding volunteers (a random off topic post) and I replied that I would love to volunteer but that their safeguarding policy was unsafe.

Also not welcome to volunteer anymore.

The whole world has gone mad.

It is isolating, I agree. I follow a fair number of GC pages but am not in any GC groups (they're all secret I guess!) aside from one I started myself, which after a full YEAR, still about 75% of the members are fence-sitting or will bicker with me about minutiae. ("That's some loaded language you're using about that paedophile...") Lots of NATWALT. They'll show a tiny shred of sympathy for elite female athletes but none for female inmates, rape and abuse victims, girls not wanting to become voyeur and exhibitionism victims, and so on.

I'm rather fed up myself and thinking of shutting it all down. A year on if I haven't managed to persuade them, why keep at it.

Gracethedisgrace I just got told that Karen white incident only happened because someone didn't look at prior convictions and tw "often experience male privilege. They give that up, and can now empathise with victims of misogyny"

I'm still laughing at the last one.

Pandora - I can sympathise with the loneliness as I don't get out very much at the moment apart from work (where I have to be very cautious ) so rely a lot on Facebook etc.

If it's any consolation it's very different when I do get to talk to people in real life -most people see the lunacy of self ID. I'm starting to see a change on Facebook too- still small at the moment, but a shift does seem to be happening.

Grace - this article was shared on Facebook by fairplay for women. You might find it useful to share with your woke friends :
transsexualwomen1.blogspot.com/2018/10/transsexual-women-opposing-self-id-why.html?m=1#comment-form

Seconding twitter - if you are picky about who you follow it can be lovely on there. Thoughts of a dog is my favourite!

I’m not a Facebook user. Avoid it all costs which is pain as few groups I’m on whereas can only join with real name and are supporting in other areas of life.

Twitter is good, don’t waste time engaging with brainwashed like did at beginning, use a account with none of ur family info on. I had make my private due to my card being marked again. Some real wise intelligent people on twitter, you won’t be alone. Even if people don’t follow u and vise Versa we have each other’s backs

Ikeepflouncing, I will set up a separate email account for Twitter etc

As someone who is nearly housebound Facebook and here are my main communications.
Fair enough, sorry to hear it. Have you tried genderhammer?

pandora

Here are a few to start with and you can follows the clues from there (the stalker dimwits really on MN to point everything out)

@WomansPlaceuk
@FairPlayWoman
@TransgenderTrd
@4th_wavenow

Water of ducks back being called bigot, terf, transphobic. Don’t worry if you find yourself blocked by people u never communicated with as ‘delicate snowflakes’ have terfblocker list. Being a mere woman who don’t agree with cult gets you added.

Not saying cycling is your thing, but all the cycling groups were lit up with ‘this is madness’ type posts yesterday after McKinnon’s win.

So there are definitely gc people out there.

What does being 'woke' mean?

Pandoras, here's a couple more Twitter GC accounts I've found really helpful.

@BDimyon
@Cisgay

bluetitsaretits that's a good resource, thank you!

Pandora my response to that would be to refer to advice given to transwomen, by other transwomen, to time their transition to maximze their financial and career success. Off the top of my head I think Sheila Jeffreys talks about this in Gender Hurts. They not only never give up male privilege, but they wield it expertly in order to milk it for the right things at the right times.

My local 'feminist' FB Group is like that (even worse). I lurk on there and find gender critical voices before they get blocked then friend them. I now have a nice little collection and we regularly chat with each other about the issues. It's a bit sneaky but I have no doubt that you are not the only one. In fact once you have started speaking out that will probably be the trigger for others to do the same. You may have to be a little patient.

I've had similar. Stuck my head above the parapet in an online group only to be called a TERF, transphobe etc. Water off a duck's back!

It was like TRA bingo, I was mentally ticking off the claims of TWAW, brave and stunning, wrong side of history etc.

Interestingly, loads of men and women too scared of the onslaught PMd me after to find out more - so I'm counting it as a success, overall!

Twitter is fab though, but you'll get nothing done. 

I have had many personal messages of support since raising this online including Labour Party members who clearly don't feel comfortable speaking out in the open.