bbc r4 - Westminster Hour

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Anyone hear the GRC consultation briefly discussed towards the end of the Westminster Hour at 44'16" in ( www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/m0000r7h ).
Labour's Jenny Chapman said she was instinctively in favour of self-id and this should apply except in the "unique, special" situations of prisons and refuges, where different rules should apply.
The presenter then asked the Irish ambassador a weird question stating "you've been progressive under your current president, haven't you" (as though she thought Ireland had an executive presidency like the US). The ambassador replied that it was easy for 18-year-olds in Ireland to self-id but that there was additional paperwork for 16-17-year-olds, and that it was to allow people to have the gender of their choice on their birth certificate and hence passport.
The Tories' Alex Burghart said he was very pleased thw government had launched the review because society had moved on since 2004, but added noncommittally that these were delicate issues and everyone's voice had to be heard in the debate.

My mum has just emailed me to say she listened to this, so I've just checked it out on listen again.

What a load of rubbish from Jenny Chapman, who stumbled over her words, falling over herself to say the right thing. Having said that self-id was fine in the 'vast, vast, vast majority of cases' she then went on to emphatically refer to Karen White as 'he' throughout, sidestepping the problematic fact that under self-id we will all be compelled to call KW 'she' and pretend that we absolutely believe that KW is a woman.

But it's only a very 'narrow set of circumstances' that leads to any issues apparently. So no problem at all. It never happens.

clicky link www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/m0000r7h starts 44 minutes in.

What's wrong with the Labour party

Yes, it is very difficult to see how a couple of vague safeguards tacked onto self-id could possibly be adequate.
The Tory wasn't impressive either. Not that he had much time to answer, but he could've come off the fence if he'd wanted to, and the way he said things had moved on since the original Act it sounded as though he wanted gender reidentification to become easier.