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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Grayson Perry: unapologetic fetishist

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thatdamnwoman · 14/10/2018 12:58

Grayson Perry is, I think, trying to do his bit in his own inimitable way.

In the Observer today he talks about being an unapologetic fetishist:
www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/oct/13/grayson-perry-im-an-unapologetic-fetishist-

I've also seen an article where he males it clear that he always uses men's loos. This is the way forward.

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KatherinaMinola · 15/10/2018 11:51

Ah no, Nikita, I meant the story of why he dresses up. I can't find a link but many years ago he used to say that when he was a child he was forced to put a dress on by some older boys and he loved it because he found it so humiliating Hmm and since then he has wanted to dress as a little girl...

The dressing as a grown woman I couldn't care less about but the dressing as a small child as part of his sexuality... hmm. I know a lot of people think the whole age-play idea is harmless fantasy but for me the idea of involving images/ideas of children in your sex life (even if it's all fantasy, made-up etc) is grim.

Also some dodgy ideas about little girls in there, whatever way you spin it.

I absolutely don't think there's any more to it in Grayson Perry's case but I do find it dodgy, and I think he has purposely toned down his story.

(I don't like his art either.)

DarlingNikita · 15/10/2018 12:27

Thanks Katherina. I didn't know that about being forced to put a dress on. What an awful thing to happen.

NewWomensMovement · 15/10/2018 14:47

I do like GP but have complicated feelings about him, in that he chooses typically female crafts and gets accolades for them while the women who have developed them get forgotten. I do like his art.

All of his TV work is fantastic - really insightful and bucks the trend. Those programmes have had a profound impact on me. He does have a bit of a blind spot about misogyny, but I sometimes wonder if that is a deliberate thing, or whether it is me as a woman thinking 'that's the first question about masculinity I'd want to ask', but it doesn't occur to him as a bloke.

As for him being open about his fetish, I am totally happy with that, because his fetish is pretty harmless and he seems to have a sense of humour about it - like he is parodying his own transvestism to the point of looking like a pantomime dame. If there was anything sneaky or dark or abusive about it, I'd drop him like a bag of cold sick. I like that he is so shameless, not only as a bloke with a fetish, but a bloke who is a bit of a competitive twat, that sort of thing. People who are in touch with who they are and are unapologetic about it are hard not to like.

birdbandit · 15/10/2018 16:35

Would love to see the TRAs explain to Mr Perry that he doesn't understand his own sexuality...that he is actually a woman and that absolutely no men dress as women for fetish reasons...and that if they do it's because they don't understand their own journey yet.

But they won't, as that kind of chat is reserved for the wives of crossdressers.

Lottapianos · 15/10/2018 16:49

'but a bloke who is a bit of a competitive twat, that sort of thing. '

Yes, I like that about him too. There were a couple of funny stories in his book about being a ridiculously competitive cyclist. He's aware of how macho it is and he owns it and can laugh about it

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