Calling out the peddling of hate

[MsBeaujangles]

I have reached peak hate peddling.

Those people who are promoting the belief that people who want some spaces, services and provisions to be for natal women only, hate trans people and want to do harm to them - JUST STOP.

You are the people causing harm and distress, you are the people spinning the lie that transphobia is rampant.

Stop and think about what you are doing. Transphobia exists, there are people who are intolerant of gender non conformity and who do not understand gender dysphoria. Don't over exaggerate their number, don't unwittingly do their work for them.

Women’s rights matter.

Here here MsB

I agree mrsB

Couldn't agree more.

Yes, I'm with you

I haven’t seen anybody declaring hatred and wishing harm on trans people. Not on MN, nor any SM that I’m on. I have huge empathy for people suffering GD and one of my concerns with reforms to the GRA is the removal of medical and mental health support. I haven’t seen this addressed anywhere either. I made a point of it in my GRA consultation submission.

But I do see the need for single sex spaces.

Being pro women’s rights is being spun as being anti trans people. It isn’t. But some of the TRAs are behaving appallingly. I see far more abuse of women than anyone else.

Yes. There is genuine transphobia out there. The TRAs know that but instead they go after feminists trying to have a calm discussion about women's rights, and the definition of 'woman'. It's almost like they know the feminists are making reasonable points, so they need to shut them down by smearing them as bigots before someone listens to them.

If TRAs were anti-transphobia they would go after men, not women, and especially not feminists.

Perhaps the existence of transphobia is a necessary evil for them, so that they have the basis to make their demands.

I'm not even tired of being called 'hateful' or 'bigoted' or 'transphobic' at this point. It has lost all meaning, I barely even notice.

Yes.
I am outspokenly GC.

We are all human and deserve respect. However males do not deserve everything women have fought for. They shouldn't be able to silence women, take what is theirs and redefine their classification (although it appears they are able to do so).

I occasionally go to GAY with my gay friends and dance with trans girls and I am friendly and of course I use their preferred pronouns. I would never hurt anyone.

If I saw a trans person being attacked I would put myself at risk to help them. I live in an area where there are a lot of trans women and I have never ever been even remotely rude to a single one of them, let alone hurt one.

There are people out there who do hate trans people. But that's not me and I don't think it's any of you.

If TRAs genuinely cared about ending transphobia they'd be campaigning against the actual physical violence perpetuated against trans people by men, not the 'literal' violence of someone disagreeing with them. They'd be campaigning and fundraising for services tailored for trans people, not trying to shoehorn them into services aimed at other groups.

However, they aren't doing any of that because their movement is not about trans people at all, it's about MRAs using a vulnerable group in order to promote a misogynistic and homophobic agenda.

here here

the 'you're a trasphobe' ploppers on here give me the rage

throwing accusations around and then fucking off

it's so bloody rude

I do think some people think women talking about women, about VAWG and how to stop it, is hate.

I think it's a mixture of being uncomfortable with women focussing on the needs of women and girls, and the idea the talking about violence makes those responsible look bad.