New video about street harassment of girls

[Ineedacupofteadesperately]

Here - I think it gets the problem across well

plan-uk.org/act-for-girls/street-harassment

super great videos thanks. The three videos together are very powerful. As ever, I also agree with Datun.

I feel physically sick when I think about this happening to DD1. I've been reading the confidence code for girls. It says girls' confidence starts to plummet around age 8 onwards. I'm guessing around the time girls start to notice street harassment (whether of themselves or other women or girls). I'm not saying it's the only factor, I'm sure it's not, but Of course this affects confidence - you're bound to be less confident if you don't feel safe in public spaces.

You can film it so that their faces aren't even shown, but focus on the leering men. That's how I would have done it, shown some examples and then moved on to a part with actors @MrGHardy

So you want to film girls actually being sexually harassed and assaulted, and put it out as educational videos on not what to do/how to tackle?

But that's OK, because you aren't showing the faces of the girls you are filming while they are being sexually assaulted/harassed, so it's a victimless crime, because they are faceless.

So you actually WANT girls to to be sexually harassed/assaulted for your viewing pleasure, so make it more real and less staged?

I think there is a name for that, and I am pretty sure it's illegal too.

It absolutely is a realistic video MrGHardy- every single one of those things has happened to me on more than one occasion, and from the age of 12 or 13. Apart from the upskirting (only because mobiles didn't exist then).

Including middle-aged men hanging out of a van and leering at me in school uniform. I wish it were exaggerated but it isn't.

The target audience will think this is exaggerated, that's the point, and others will then explain that it isn't, and if anything these are pretty mild examples, and the target audience will learn something. I could think of several things that happened to me which were worse. Now you are better informed than when you came to the thread.

Most of those things have happened to me, more times than I care to remember, pretty much just as they're depicted - except the 'show us your hair' and the phone up skirt, since they weren't around when I was uniform.

But yes, definitely the vocal leering out of the van (it's almost always a fucking van). And certainly the groping in broad daylight / public place.

But sadly, I think MrG perhaps has a point. The people it's aimed at probably will dismiss it as unrealistic. And they won't have intelligent, informed people with them to hammer home how accurate it is, unfortunately.

Women are NOT BELIEVED when it comes to this shit. Men take any and every opportunity to dismiss and disbelieve women, when it comes to this sort of thing. As we've just seen on the world stage.

Any sort of chink - and men will grab it and run with it. And this video being 'obviously staged' is enough for arrogant and ignorant men to dismiss it.

@MrGHardy - be assured that girls and women experience this relentlessly, for years. It's beyond tedious.

And what's more tedious is that we have to tell you (generic) about it just so before you're even willing to listen to us, let alone take us seriously.

The more widely the video is seen, the more it will become a talking point and people will become more informed. It's all about chipping away and raising awareness and changing attitudes, and ultimately changing behaviour.

I do think we're at a bit of a turning point in history.

Since forever, women have kept silent about this sort of thing.

One the one hand, the low level stuff is just so everyday banal, that no-one talks about it. It's expected, you just try to ignore it, and get on with life.

On the other hand, the awful things that happen to women - rape, sexual assault, violence, etc - are often too traumatic to talk about, and as I say, you won't be believed anyway, so what's the point?

But the tide seems to be turning. We are starting to talk about it. We've all experienced at least the low level stuff. And we're sick of it.

I know it's much easier for defensive men to just deny his happens, to believe Dr Ford made up what happened to her, to ruin Kavanaugh's career.

But ...

What if we're all actually telling the truth?

And what if we've had enough?

I do as well. There seemed to be a sea change a few years ago with Everyday Sexism.

You guys only hear what you want to hear. I very clearly stated in my initial post that I do not mean that these things don't happen. And yet there is post after post on the basis that I did. Oh and differentname, get a fucking grip.

MrG I posted as I could see your point. What did you think about the other videos?

I find them much more effective. If you see a murder on TV/movie you don't think twice, but I at least felt sick for days when I once watched a person die in a video (there was no real spoiler). So hearing the testimony of those women in the first video for example, to me, makes it so much more effective.

Oh and differentname, get a fucking grip.

Did you, or did you not write this You can film it so that their faces aren't even shown, but focus on the leering men. That's how I would have done it, shown some examples

Did you, or did you not write this So you actually WANT girls to to be sexually harassed/assaulted for your viewing pleasure, so make it more real and less staged?

And what's more tedious is that we have to tell you (generic) about it just so before you're even willing to listen to us, let alone take us seriously.

This, a million times this. How the fuck has this thread become about whether or not the video is staged? Who cares if it is or isn't. It has statistics behind it. The point is young girls - including those in their school uniform - are routinely harassed on the street.

Why are the men who DON'T do this not outraged? It can only be because they dismiss women as liars, I can see no other explanation.

I think the men who don’t do it aren’t outraged because they don’t know/don’t see it.

The behaviour is so disgustingly normalised.

Which is why it’s so important we show films like this to them.