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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

so my FB comments get deleted

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WomanAndProud · 12/10/2018 12:59

(I've name changed because i'm trying to keep things separated).

My FB comments keep getting deleted. Well, it's the second time now, but the first time was in part of a discussion. I'm not personally attacking anybody, I'm studying psychology and my language is very deliberately academic. I try to back things up or tell people where info can be found (or to reply if they want more). I always try to write in a way that is true, yet careful not to be deliberately - or unintentionally - upsetting. I get that some people see any whiff of not being fully on board with self-ID as transphobic though.

What really gets me is not that people disagree. It's the deletions. Especially when I've seen other worse things said with no reaction. I'm up for debate, but it's impossible when everything is removed. And in the first discussion, where people were trying to suss out whether to call me transphobic or not (because my language was pretty careful), I was also blocked from the page. They deleted my comments, not the ones tagging me and calling me a terf, just mine. I ended up changing my name on FB because I couldn't get in touch with the page admins after being blocked and don't want 'terf' next to my real name, for obvious reasons, especially given what I'm studying. They finally 'realised' I was a terf when I said I didn't think lesbians should called bigots for not wanting to have sex with lady cock... That got deleted too of course.

I'm also very careful where I post. So these deletions have been on pages that I imagined were ok. So the first was on a page about educating girls about their developing bodies and their periods, including a kind of wholesome celebrations of the menstrual cycle! I mean, TRAs would even see that as exclusionary! The second is someone who worked in the field of gender, worked with women prostitutes, works currently with extremely vulnerable people (actually vulnerable, not self-identified as vulnerable) and does outstandingly amazing work in empowering them in sustainable ways. She's also a brilliant thinker.

I thought that we were - slowly - getting somewhere. When these people shut down discussion about women's rights, the road ahead seems too long.

I need some cheering up... It's just me and my keyboard. I've been following from afar (I'm abroad) and I do comment sometimes on these boards. It's only the past month I've really been talking on FB. I'm not on Twitter - that place is for the big kids!

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pennydrew · 12/10/2018 13:41

Facebook is a steaming pile of sexist bullshit. I left it and am so glad. Join a group called Double standards and you’ll see the filth they allow while banning women for the silliest things. It’s disturbing what they allow. Seriously disturbing. Pages about drugging women then slapping them, video taping it, there’s a special name for this sickness apparently. Actual porn, even after mass reporting.

WomanAndProud · 12/10/2018 14:54

I've been peak facebooked today ;) when a friend shared a post that had been deleted by Facebook (not a page holder) for violating standards. In it she said that men are responsible for the majority of murders. That's all. Someone reported it for hate speech! This was on a thread about DV and make on female violence, nothing trans-related. She appealed and it was upheld!

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Now100 · 12/10/2018 15:26

I was deleted for saying that transwoman were not women and in areas such as prisons we should separate people by sex, having a transgender wing if necessary.

Apparently that is hate speech.

I hate the idea of shutting people down just because they have differing views, we should always be able to argue our point not just delete.

pennydrew · 12/10/2018 15:31

I got a 3 day ban. Someone I know had knew a girl in the news who got TSS and she was in the comment section, aged 16, explaining which brand she used etc this man was saying disgusting things to her about her vagina, I reported and they said it didn’t break community standards. So I told him: piss off, what would you know, you’re a man!

3 day ban

speakingwoman · 12/10/2018 15:35

That’s awful

speakingwoman · 12/10/2018 15:36

Does Facebook rely on complaints or is it a bot?

Now100 · 12/10/2018 16:43

I think it's complaints.

speakingwoman · 12/10/2018 16:51

So is it one of your Facebook friends?

ohello · 12/10/2018 20:22

Facebook has so much hatred for women with opinions, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if one day Zuckerberg comes out as trans. He'll be ten times more politically insidious than anything we've seen so far because his servers have stored every data point you've ever not realized you've given them.

You're continuing to cooperate with a system which hates women with opinions. Until you decide to stop, they will continue to abuse you. Find a different platform and then slowly invite your friends to join you.

WomanAndProud · 14/10/2018 03:37

ohello - do you know of any real alternatives though? Ones that don't store your data etc?

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