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Being a single mum is unacceptable

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Bunbunbunny · 11/10/2018 09:13

Have just seen this in The Metro

metro.co.uk/2018/10/08/single-mums-should-not-be-acceptable-says-tory-mayor-of-london-candidate-8017333/

Why on earth is just down to mums? Teenage pregnancy rates have fallen over the last decade but this outdated view is still being spouted out.

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Bunbunbunny · 11/10/2018 09:13

Sorry wanted to post this in chat! How do I get it moved?

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malaguena · 11/10/2018 09:17

It should not be acceptable for men to have unprotected sex, abandon their families and not pay for their children while expecting the tax-payer to pick up the bill. Want to reduce taxes and benefits to single mums? Make feckless fathers pay!

Babdoc · 11/10/2018 09:23

I get annoyed by the assumption that a woman can’t raise a child without a man. I was widowed with two babies and raised them alone. They’re now both home owning university graduates with well paid responsible jobs.
This man should shut up trying to tell women we can’t do things, and focus on the failings of men who attack or desert partners.

LilyMumsnet · 11/10/2018 09:50

@Bunbunbunny

Sorry wanted to post this in chat! How do I get it moved?

We've moved it for you now, OP. Flowers

Ereshkigal · 11/10/2018 10:05

He can fuck off.

QuentinWinters · 11/10/2018 13:48

Ugh. Ugh ugh ugh.
Please can we have an article about how men having sex without a condom should be "unacceptable"? Or men fucking off when their girlfriend gets pregnant?
The conservatives are losing the plot putting someone with those views up as a candidate.

QuentinWinters · 11/10/2018 13:49

@mnhq I think OP might have meant _chat not feminist chat.

KimberWozRobbed · 11/10/2018 13:51

Always single mothers. Anyone would think we get ourselves pregnant! But never any criticism of absent fathers.

Namelessinseattle · 11/10/2018 13:53

Omg I had that exact thought this morning! Like actually wtf is a single mum? You don’t impregnate yourself, short of widows or adoptions etc there should be no such thing. It takes two to tango.

I am of course Devestated to read what he actually meant. Prick.

SodTheBloodyLotOfThem · 11/10/2018 13:55

But apparently he doesn't hold with condoms and abortions either, and he thinks teenage girls are responsible for men getting involved in gang violence. Isn't he a peach Angry

SodTheBloodyLotOfThem · 11/10/2018 13:59

I note that he is the son of an absent father himself. His mother must be fucking thrilled with the shite he's spouting.

Spudlet · 11/10/2018 14:02

Honestly, all these immaculate conceptions happening left right and centre, with no male involvement whatsoever. JUST STOP IMPREGNATING YOURSELVES, WOMEN.

Also, it's apparently the job of women - sorry, girls! - to solve gang violence and domestic violence, because that's all our fault too. I mean, of course it fucking well is! Not the poor, sweet menz who are being influenced into knifing one another and battering their partners, oh no. Heaven fucking forfend that a menz should ever have to accept one iota of responsibility for his own actions, after all.

What. A. Tosser.

RedToothBrush · 11/10/2018 14:03

You want to look up his views on domestic violence if you think that's bad!

Or perhaps you don't.

Yes it's that bad.

Sadiq Khan couldn't have wished for a better political opponent.

ToeToToe · 11/10/2018 14:05

The tories have been using single mothers as scapegoats for the ills of society since I were a wee lass. Plus ca change.

It's one of the oldest forms of misogyny there is- punishing a woman for having a child (or just having sex!) without being owned by a man married.

Spudlet · 11/10/2018 14:09

"Men will always be involved in violence, but when women are involved in violence, when a high level of domestic violence is accepted by women, something very wrong is happening. The repair starts with girls, because if you could get girls to accept less of men's rubbish then men would have to change because ultimately men are after a girl. Men's behaviour is affected by what he feels it is to be a man and what he feels will impress a girl!"

conservativewomen.uk/article/119

Fucking Nora. So women aren't victims of domestic violence, we're involved in it, are we? Like participants? Like, he throws the punch, she puts her face in the way of it - teamwork! Great!

Oh Sadiq - go get 'im.

RedToothBrush · 11/10/2018 14:13

Well who are you going to blame once the immigrants have been thrown under the bus once and for all?

Danaquestionseverything · 11/10/2018 14:13

Shit! Well I got into a bit of an argument last night in another thread about this type of discussion. I grew up as an only child of a single mum in the 70’s. It was incredibly hard, even as a child you could sense either disapproval or outright contempt. FFS I can’t believe some elements of society have become so regressive about this.

I personally find this attitude really sad. I was so hopeful for kids in my situation that society had moved on and they had - for a while. Kids aren’t stupid they have an awareness of these things.

MrsPussinBoots · 11/10/2018 14:17

Just popping this here because it's brilliant. Hope the link works but if not, google Gabriella Blair and her twitter thread.

www.thepoke.co.uk/2018/09/18/mum-deliver-epic-takedown-men-grandstanding-abortion-rights/

inkydinky · 11/10/2018 14:48

How very lazy of him.

Of course single parenthood is acceptable. What's the alternative, forced abortion? Kill the kids when the husbands has his midlife? FFS.

I know of one women, just one, who became pregnant knowing it was a decision to be a single parent.

Inkydinky (single parent due to 'grass is greener' wanker of an ex husband after 15 years of marriage and not a benefit payment in sight, thanks. Though if I was entitled I'd bloody well claim them)

Danaquestionseverything · 11/10/2018 14:49

spudlet
Wow that quote 😔. I can’t even. IIRC a TRA made a revolting reference to women’s fragile skulls. It just read really poorly very “victim blaming “. I can’t remember exactly who it was so I won’t name. Strangely enough when I first saw that I was reminded of an excellent book called Eggshell Skull by an Aussie author Bri Lee. It’s fairly recent so should be easy to find. The book examines the law in relation to domestic violence. Highly recommended.

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